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Israeli warplanes bombed Gaza overnight, bringing an end to the Israel-Hamas ceasefire after two months.

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[–] PseudorandomNoise@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Trump - "Israel should finish the job"

Israel - "Well, if you insist!"

Wonder what would be happening if we had President Harris right now. I mean, this attack would probably still be happening but at least under her protesting would be legal.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago

Wonder what would be happening if we had President Harris right now.

"Don't do it"

sends bombs

Israel does it.

"I can't believe you've done this!"

sends more bombs

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Gaza would still be getting bombed, just with a hint of virtue-signalling

[–] shaserlark@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you look at how they cracked down on protests under Biden I wouldn’t be so sure about that protest part and that’s the actual tragedy.

Harris or Trump it doesn’t really matter. The difference is that Trump is mask off fuck diplomacy about it while the dems push the brakes a bit to try and keep up the "America good“ narrative that no one believes anymore anyways. As for the groups that were lucky enough to benefit from democrat cronyism, I genuinely feel sorry for them.

The American people got fucked over badly in this election, their political system failed them.

[–] gregs_gumption@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

lol, yes that is exactly right. Everything between Harris and Trump is exactly the same except Trump's diplomacy. You really have your finger on the pulse of world events.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As for the groups that were lucky enough to benefit from democrat cronyism, I genuinely feel sorry for them.

For most of the world, there is no appreciable difference.

[–] shaserlark@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yeah that’s exactly why I added that paragraph. I genuinely feel sorry for the LBTQ community, the next years are gonna be really bad for them and the dems protected them. The dems were also sligthly better than Trump on migration, but Biden didn’t revert a lot of Trumps policies even though he could have.

And when we see ICE agents doing Soviet style arrests and when we hear stories of people in immigration detention being abused, do people really think all of this just magically popped up over night when Trump got in power?

And as for the Middle East, if you post a Trump Gaza video or strongly condemn the killing of civilians, for the people being bombed to shreds by American bombs that literally makes 0 difference. Biden could have stopped sending weapons, he could have voted for ceasefire resolutions, he could have literally bombed Netanyahu if he had wanted to, but he didn’t. He was happy to let the genocide unfold that Trump is now happy to continue.

But were the dems protecting e.g. the LBTQ community because they care about human rights? Fuck no. And most people on the planet are unfortunately not receiving any of the democrat cronyism so for them it honestly doesn’t matter much.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean, this attack would probably still be happening but at least under her protesting would be legal.

Okay, and? If that's your pitch for "protest voters screwed over Gaza" it definitely ain't convincing.

[–] PseudorandomNoise@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We're past the point where that matters, but to be completely honest if you need more than "this one was at least willing to pretend to listen and this other guy will just deport you" I'm not skilled enough in debating to get you there. All I can do is comment on where we are.

And sadly this is just the restarting of the war. In the coming weeks and months I'm afraid that we're going to see even more stark differences between what Trump does and what Harris would've done instead.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago

"this one was at least willing to pretend to listen and this other guy will just deport you" I'm not skilled enough in debating to get you there

Harris never pretended to listen. In fact she was very explicit about not listening. Also to be clear, I'm not saying there's no difference between being able to protest and not being able to protest the genocide. However, that difference only matters for people in America; for people in Palestine it doesn't fucking matter because nothing was going to come out of these protests anyway.

[–] land@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Exactly. She would be like: Terrorist state of Isreal has right to defend itself then giving more money to Isreal.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

She wouldn't condemn shit. They would have "concerns" and be "looking into it" like they were doing under Biden for 15 months.

[–] land@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago