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Discord was already succumbing to enshitification. Now with their intention to be owned by Wall Street, that trajectory will certainly accelerate at warp speed once the change of hands happens.

Anyone already get ahead of this and find a solid alternative?

Right now I'm on the fence between Element for Matrix, and Revolt. Both seem to have their pros and cons and I can't find a clear "winner".

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[–] thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It's so much easier to set up and install than Matrix.

[–] splendoruranium@infosec.pub 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It’s so much easier to set up and install than Matrix.

Unbelievably so. Mumble is... basically one setup command. Don't even need a domain. And it needs absolutely no resources, can run on a Pi Zero.
Setting up my own Matrix server was honestly one of the most difficult things I've ever attempted in decades of non-professionally using computers and I'm still not sure I'd be able to properly take care of the installation if it breaks. Sooo many moving parts. All the federation-oriented projects that rely on adoption rates reaaaaally desperately need setup wizards before any other additional feature.

[–] thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz 6 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I've set up Lemmy, Forgejo, Nextcloud and Mastodon. Forgejo is unbelievably easy, Mastodon and Lemmy both are complex but if you follow the instructions you get there pretty quickly.

Matrix is like "Follow a book of documentation, then when it doesn't work anyway, spend hours of your life troubleshooting a bunch of stuff that's NOT in the documentation. Why is this so hard?"

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 hours ago

You forgetting the part where the server starts using crazy resources because you entered the main Matrix chat. Does the server need to send you everything that's ever been said? Apparently yes