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A lot of things he's done should have invoked the 25th ammendment
A lot of things in Trumps last term too. And a few things in Bidens term. The 25th doesnt really function.
We used to talk about "constituional crisis" too, and Trump is now just ignoring judges and asking what anyone will do about it. That should also trigger the 25th, if congress lived up to their oaths, but their oaths are vastly secondary to party politics, self interest, and money making, on both sides.
What did Biden do that warranted invoking the 25th? I suspect if you think it should have with him, it should have with every president.
Our laws plainly spell out that if a state is interfering with aid distribution, aid and weapons to them must stop. Biden refused to admit that Israel was interfering with aid distribution in any way. According to Biden the gazans have food aid and aid workers have not been interfered with. I dont see how this violation can possibly be debated.
In the face of strenuous complaints by congress, Biden refused to admit that Israel could plausibly be involved in genocide, which would have triggered automatic safeguards in the Leahy laws and other laws around shipment of weapons and giving of foreign monetary aid.
Israel/Biden also repeatedly and consistently violated the geneva conventions, which we are a signatory of, so thats binding law in our legal system. That makes him a war criminal with blood on his hands.
Biden swore an oath to faithfully execute our laws, which he grossly violated, doing massive amounts of grievous criminal harm. These are the very definition of "high crimes".
https://www.commondreams.org/news/leahy-law-israel
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/17/palestine-israel-leahy-lawsuit
Oh come on, that’s ridiculous. I was with you calling Biden an enabler for Israel’s actions in Gaza, but I just don’t see the leap to war crime
Well we can google what is a war crime.
Lets do that:
What qualifies as a war crime?
A war crime, a serious violation of international humanitarian law, is a breach of the laws or customs of war committed in the context of an armed conflict, whether international or non-international, and can lead to individual criminal responsibility.
Here's a breakdown of what qualifies as a war crime: Key Elements:
Context: War crimes always occur within the context of an armed conflict, whether international (between states) or non-international (internal conflicts).
Violation of International Law: They involve serious breaches of the laws and customs of war, as defined in international treaties like the Geneva Conventions and the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court.
Individual Responsibility: Perpetrators of war crimes incur individual criminal responsibility under international law.
Examples of War Crimes: Attacks Against Civilians: Intentionally directing attacks against the civilian population or civilian objects.
Torture and Cruel Treatment: Inflicting torture, cruel treatment, or inhuman treatment on prisoners of war or civilians.
Taking Hostages: Taking hostages.
Pillaging: Pillaging or looting property.
Sexual Violence: Rape, sexual slavery, forced pregnancy, or any other form of sexual violence.
Use of Prohibited Weapons: Using weapons that cause unnecessary suffering or are prohibited by international law, such as chemical weapons or cluster munitions.
Disregard for the Wounded and Sick: Attacking medical personnel, facilities, or transports, or preventing them from carrying out their duties.
Deportation or Transfer of Populations: Forcibly deporting or transferring populations from their homes.
Use of Child Soldiers: Enlisting or using children under the age of 15 in armed conflict.
Killing or Wounding Surrendered Combatants: Killing or wounding combatants who have surrendered or are hors de combat (out of action).
Important Considerations:
Proportionality:
Military actions must be proportionate, meaning the harm caused to civilians and civilian objects must not be excessive in relation to the anticipated military advantage.
Distinction: Military actions must distinguish between civilians and combatants, and between military objectives and civilian objects.
Necessity: Military actions must be necessary to achieve a legitimate military objective and should not cause unnecessary suffering.
Humanity: Military actions must be conducted with humanity and should avoid unnecessary suffering.
Which of those did Biden commit?
I'll just block you instead. You clearly arent worth the time for me or anyone else to reply to.
And that's different than what any other US president would have done? Kowtowing to Israel is US government policy.
that changes nothing….
and Isreal has been acting much worse than they were before… although it was still genocidal
Nothing different. I'd argue that's another indicator that the US's 'health' has been bad for a long time.
The point is whether the 25th amendment should have been invoked.
If the conditions were met, then other past presidents doing the same thing just means the 25th amendment should have been invoked in those situations as well.
Ok, so def like -100 karma points for Biden, but it's kind of petty to focus on that when Trump was already at like -20 million before he even took office
Is there some rule that we just imprison whichever one lawbreaker is worst? I dont think thats how laws work. Supposedly we are a nation of laws.
I mean there is, thats why if you break the law and speed you get a ticket and pay a fine, but if you break the law and commit premeditated homicide, you get life in prison.
The issue is that laws have to be applied evenly to everyone, and penalties need to scale with income level. They need to be both punitive and prohibitive to EVERYONE.
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