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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Bullshit

I'm a centrist

The Israeli government and Hamas leadership should both be put in front of a wall and shot

Trump is a lying narcissistic sack of shit, just like Elmo Musk

None of that should be on any political side, those are obviously human choices

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Driving 3 million people into a concentration camp and restricting food, water, and medicine is with the intention to ethnically cleanse them is bad, but have you considered that using violence to escape that concentration camp is also bad?

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Let's meet in the middle. How about we only exterminate half of them?

[–] admin@lemmy.today 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They forget that centrists don't mean being in the middle of each extreme. If one side is calling for genocide and the other is calling for the prosecution of those advocating for genocide, a centrist perspective isn't about endorsing a little bit of genocide or putting a few people in prison.

Instead, it involves investigating how we reached a situation where people are calling for genocide, apprehending the group that could actually commit genocide, and dismantling the institutions that made it possible for people to join that group. This process is resource-intensive and often anticlimactic.

You don't win by persecuting people, you win by making it difficult to commit crimes. It is a slow process that requires swift action.

The left's search for idealism is what doomed them in the 2024 election.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If one side is calling for genocide and the other is calling for the prosecution of those advocating for genocide, a centrist perspective isn't about endorsing a little bit of genocide or putting a few people in prison.

This is not the situation. Both the fascist Republican and the Democratic Party, that's supposed to be the opposition to Fascism, unconditionally supported arming a state that has not only been committing genocide for over 15 months, but has committed ethnic cleansing, apartheid, and settler colonialism for over 76 years.

Instead, it involves investigating how we reached a situation where people are calling for genocide, apprehending the group that could actually commit genocide, and dismantling the institutions that made it possible for people to join that group. This process is resource-intensive and often anticlimactic.

This is an incredibly far left position to the Democratic Party, which denounced the ICC arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant and the ICJ case against Israel. Nor is it anticlimactic when we know genocide is already underway because of how incredibly well documented it has been.

The left's search for idealism is what doomed them in the 2024 election.

Do you mean the Democratic Party here? Because what doomed them is ignoring the demands of their constituents. "The Left" in the US is entirely grassroots and had no effect on the policies of the Democratic Party during the election.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You don't win by persecuting people, you win by making it difficult to commit crimes.

Well provided you accept that you need to prosecute the people who've already committed crimes. You can't just go ooh well it's society's fault so let them be

[–] admin@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Of course you have to prosecute criminals, what is an alternative for that?

[–] Sconrad122@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Making them president, apparently

[–] admin@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

Take the W man.

[–] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh my. An actual centrist and not a far-right nutjob claiming it to seem intellectually superior. What a sight for sore eyes

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago

But the right think that Trump is wonderful. At least the right in the US do, I think the right in every other country thinks he's a dork who's drawing too much attention to himself, and them by extension.