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I mean, on all sorts of quality of life rankings and factors we're almost always at the top. If there's such a thing as on objectively good place to live, Finland seems to be one of them. Not sure what you feel like our ranking should be on QoL and what sort of places should rank higher.
If you're very unhappy with life here then I can understand it being hard to believe that others are genuinely happy to live here. If 98% believe that it just might be that it's not them who are in denial.
Again.
Denial.
Literal refusal to even acknowledge the torture that happened.
You believe in things which don't exist and refuse to believe in shit that exists, while saying that it's not a problem that all Finns have that level or reality-escaping built into them.
You're literally deluded worse than North Koreans.
You can not accept a single fault in Finland.
I like the country, which is why I despise cowards like you. Vitun paskahousu.
https://ibb.co/fzF4w32J
You're living in a complete fucking fiction.
https://yle.fi/a/3-5245931
I have evidence and I can discuss reality — something which a coward like you is literally unable to even conceive.
I have no trouble seeing the faults in Finnish system. Again, nobody thinks we're perfect, far from it. But I have no idea about your personal stuff wtf.
You are quite literally avoiding even saying there is a fault to begin with.
When confronted with photographic evidence of torture.
Tä on just sitä välttelyä mistä mä puhuin.
It's called avoidance. And it's a sickeningly strong trait in Finnish. I don't think you understand how deeply that trait is connected to the Finnish people. It's literally in the language when you know what you're looking for. But you can't see it when it's shoved in your face so you definitely won't understand it on that level.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avoidance_coping
Coward
I'm thoroughly puzzled by what the fuck you are on about
Read the conversation back and see how many times you've even implicitly acknowledged I was stuck in a cell writing with blood on the walls, breaking my basic human rights.
The fact that I have to actually spell it out for you IS the problem. That IS the avoidance I'm talking about.
You came to this thread to tell me Finnish people don't do the exact thing you're doing. Congrats.
It's always the same, and I'm tired of how deeply embedded that is in Finnish culture.
Who peed in your cornflakes today?
So you're trying to score internet points by ridiculing a victim of torture.
Cool beans man, definitely proves me wrong, right?
Nope. Just asking who peed in your cornflakes today.
Why?
Because I can't be criticising me being tortured and that torture being ignore by literally every single Finnish person I know isn't a good enough reason to be annoyed, someone must have "pissed in my breakfast".
For your info, I can't eat milk anymore. The PTSD I got was so bad my GI symptoms got wildly over fucked and now I'm on a really restrictive diet.
But hey.
At least you made a comment you think is wisecrackin as fuck. "Put me in my place", right, gansta?
Im confused. What happened to you?
A long fucking story that no Finns believe.
Despite me still having the scars and photos to prove it.
Cops deleted the video material.
Tried charging them and reaching out to oikeuasiamies the ombudsman, and they refused to accept fault either.
But do tell if you think cutting of water from a person in active psychosis (because you refused to give them their prescribed medications as "unnecessary"), who's actively bleeding, after he's not slept for three days, is, idk... appropriate and in accordance with Finnish values? (Because it's not in accordance with the universal declaration of basic human rights)
Its pretty hard to belive it when every encounter i personally have with police has been good and fair and everyone i know to hate "pigs" hate them because they have broken the law themself. I think my experience is pretty common one and to me personally, one person ranting online is not enough to change my lifelong experience.
What pictures are you talking about? The one about the holding cell? That in its self does not mean anything.
This is what I mean.
How in the hell do you defend keeping someone locked up when they don't eat or don't sleep and you keep their PRESCRIBED antipsychotics from them.
I have doctors statements showing my bleeding and infected arma from after that treatment. I've a psychotherapist's diagnosis of PTSD of it
I wouldn't have believed it before it happened, but it did.
And you have literally zero empathy and willfully ignore the evidence. Just claim "no didn't happen that's probably faked image".
Have you ever tries eating a part of your own body? I chewed the end of pinky off, a I could use it as a paintbrush.
300 words. WORDS. ON MY OWN BLOOD.
Just pleased explain to me how it makes sense in your little head that putting me in an isolation cell "for my protection", while under constant supervision, someone would let this happen?
They also deleted the footage. Want to hear the phone call with my lawyer when he talks about it?
You still wouldn't believe it.
This is exactly what I mean. Deluded people excusing authoritarianism, because "oh but the police were always polite to me".
Youre deluded and doing hardcore avoidance, which is endemic to Finland or at least Finns and that's been my point all the time.
Want to put a reminder for two years because ECHR takes years to handle human rights violation cases.
I starred filming the cops the instant they forced my door open and came into my apartment without a permission. (Search warrants aren't like in the US, but you do need to be a senior constable to be able to decide it, neither of them were.)
The 6s bit I managed to film I used, and Korkein oikeus agreed with me.
https://www.hs.fi/suomi/art-2000009654524.html
You're just deluded. Willfully ignorant. Guess what things that leads in a society? "Oh everything is well, these well documented abuses definitely don't happen because officers on the street know how to smile at me at traffic stops.
I never had a single issue with cops either. Until they abused me.
You trust you have rights because they're in the law. Unfortunately doesn't matter at all. The cops investigating themselves? Guess if they found fault about themselves?
In the US at least there's people who demand their rights, which is why they can't have entirely cases mistrialed, because there's actually people in the US who believe and understand people have rights.
You don't even have the capacity for empathy, much less an understanding of human rights or standing up for justice.
Coward.
I dont think you understood my point and to be honest i did wrote it badly.
If you can, take a step back and think pragmatically.
On the one side is the experiences that you and your close circle has. So long in your life everybody who has had the opposide opinion have been untrustworthy persons.
Then the other side. Random person on random forum ranting and telling tales that sound impossible and goes against all of your personal experiences while being agressive and rude.
Can you see why people wont respond well to you?
Also about the hs link you provided is behind paywall. Is this the case in question? isint this a victory? Police did wrong and korkeinoinoikeus fixed it. Sure its shitty for it to be a long prosess, but things with law are slow. No way around it.
About the holding cell incident. I just need some proof other than random picture of something that you say is a holding cell.
Also legal system and prisons in USA are joke, it way too broad subject to speak in here, but if somebody says their private owned prisons, three strike system, legal slavery and system that does nothing to rehabilate prisoners is better than system in Finland i automatically think that they are either uninformed or stupid.
Also cannabis should be legal.
Fuck right off.
I he heard that a million times. You refusing to accept reality doesn't mean I haven't considered I'm wrong.
"You and your close circle"
No. Fucking Finland. More human rights violations than the rest of the Nordics combined.
You're just another delusional sääntöhuora who is literally unable to accept reality
https://yle.fi/a/3-5245931
Please give me a version of what happened to that cell which you think is legal and proper.
You and Kusimulkku are textbook examples of the sickening trait I'm talking about.
Oh they "fixed it" huh? The cops didn't get any sanctions at all. I didn't get even a letter informing me I was right. Had to read it from the papers.
In the US, where this sort of sääntöhuoraaminen isn't a natural trait unlike it is for Finns, the whole trial would've been mistrialed and I've would've actually got compensation.
But no.
People like you disgust me.
Oh. Did your feelings get all hurt and you need to now swear and act like a big boy?
Grow up and learn to talk like adult and maybe people start listening you.
Btw that yle link you like to share is from 2009.
And dont be delutional. In states police has shot people for filming them and you would be in much bigger trouble for cultivating.
And about that picture. Like most people i dont tend to take random pictures in internet as facts if there is nothing backing it up. Especially if the picture comes from somebody who seem to be as polite and well adjusted as you.
So far everything what you have said has only enforced my view that people who have problems with law enforcement are criminals who are crying after they have fucked around and found out.