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How can you outlaw something a company in another conhtinent is doing? And specially when they are becoming better as disguising themselves as normal traffic? What will happen is that politicians will see this as another reason to push for everyone having their ID associated with their Internet traffic.
You're right. Which is exactly why companies should be exhibiting better behaviour and self regulate before they make the internet infinitely worse off for everyone.
self regulation is a joke. a few bad apples always spoil the bunch.
what needs to happen is regulation, period. force all companies to abide by laws that just make sense, and all these problems go away.
see: GDPR
What did GDPR solve? Did we get rid of advertisers sharing data?
nope, but now we are aware of how many times our data is shared with because of it.
here's a short breakdown of what it has accomplished:
The GDPR lists six data processing principles that data controllers must comply with. Personal data must be:
Lawful processing
Except for special categories of personal data, which cannot be processed except under certain circumstances, personal data can only be processed:
Data subjects’ rights
Data subjects have:
Learn how to map your data and establish a lawful basis for processing Valid consent
There are stricter rules regarding consent:
Data protection by design and by default
Data controllers and processors must implement technical and organisational measures that are designed to implement the data processing principles effectively.
Transparency and privacy notices
Organisations must be clear about how, why and by whom personal data will be processed.
Data transfers outside the EU
Many non-EU organisations that process EU residents’ personal data also need to appoint an EU representative following the end of the transition period. Mandatory data breach notification
The GDPR defines a personal data breach as “a breach of security leading to the accidental or unlawful destruction, loss, alteration, unauthorised disclosure of, or access to, personal data transmitted, stored or otherwise processed”.
DPOs (data protection officers)
You must be able to demonstrate compliance with the GDPR. This includes:
that sounds great in theory but a) noone respects this and b) noone enforces this
i know because i reported a bunch of companies and websites and every time i got a reply "welp, there's nothing we can do"
GDRP is useless
well, the websites I frequent always ask me if I want to allow for tracking cookies ever since GDPR was implemented. I think it worked for websites that want to comply with the law.
also, that's disappointing to hear about them not taking action on companies that don't comply. you went through the whole process several times? which country are you located in? I'm just curious 🙂
yeah small companies are scared of it so they all use that cookie notice. i am from slovenia and i reported a few of those websites that literally steal your personal info off a linkedin and sell it in a "business yellow pages" or something. i got so many scam or spam phonecalls selling me all sort of stupid services, practically daily for a while. i reported it to our GDRP inspector or whatever they're called, some sort of representative to EU's inspector and they said there is nothing they can do.
i didn't do quite the full procedure. you're supposed to send the company a snail mail notice first and then after a month if they don't comply you're supposed to fill out some official forms. I just emailed them and complained that i can't even find their registered addresses.
perhaps if i'd done the whole procedure, they could've purse it further but i doubt it since those are companies registered in all sorts of tax havens, like panama or curacao. how is slovenian authority or EU one going to purse some fake company from panama?
and then you have big conglomerates like facebook or twitter who literally rather pay a few million fine and sell data to advertisers than comply and make zero with it or even lose money with compliance.
So now the adtech companies need to hire a minimum wage person in the EU, and I can write them a letter requesting they remove my anonimized data, doxxing myself in the process. Oh and now I know they're sharing with 395 partners, as if that wasn't obvious from uBlock before. And I get to sign a permission to process my data if I want to see a doctor.
yes to everything you said, what point are you trying to make?
according to history, this sadly never works
Exactly, we've already seen this in the past. GDPR is a good example. Whilst I'm glad this regulation exists, it wouldn't be necessary if megacorps would have behaved.
Yes, because like or not that's the only possible solution. If all traffic was required to be signed and the signatures were tied to an entity then you could refuse unsigned traffic and if signed traffic was causing problems you'd know who it was and have recourse.
I don't like this solution but it's the only way forward that I can see.
How do you have more recourse countering a random third world IP vs a random third world person when both are outside your juridiction?
Unsigned traffic = drop. Signed traffic that becomes an annoyance = drop. If signed traffic becomes more than an annoyance then you know who to report to the authorities and even in Brazil there's authorities.
is it? Someone mentioned proof of work being effective for Tor.
PoW has the advantage of being anonymous but I don't like it as solution for the simple fact that it uses more electricity. It's just not a very green solution.
it doesn’t have to be only meaningless computations. And even if it were, the cost is nothing compared to such a huge scale of privacy infringement