cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/23396300
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nickyflowers posts:it would be cool if websites let you be an adult on them. the advertisers and payment processors need everything to be Family Friendly though and their definitions of family and friendly are absolutely fucked. but since they're in charge of the Internet now, no one is allowed to be an adult. tiktokers say things like "unalive" and "seggs" because they know death and sex are too adult for online. online is for idiot babies only now because they're easier to market to
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oh im sorry you're a trans adult? super ban. you are super banned for life. you have upset Visa's feelings. Mastercard is throwing up in the corner. how could you do this to Google Ads?
I mean, obviously this is true and a huge issue, but that's part of what the Fediverse aims to address. Mainstream social media is fucked and done for.
It should be, and yet almost every single community is still enforcing some kind of stupid decorum or civility "standard" which sounds fine in theory, but almost always leads to a similar (albeit less egregious) thing. You still end up with jackasses who know how to play the civility game and are able to say intentionally antagonistic and awful things within the bound of decorum whose comments are allowed to stand while the decent people who rightly tell them to fuck off are getting moderated for "civility."
So long as we keep pretending decorum and methodology matters more than intent and we keep insisting on civility over decency, we're just doing the same damn shit.
Yeah, I really think that is the key to this. Because, to be frank, I think civility should be enforced in certain communities
not everywhere, necessarily
but, obviously, people that play the game while harming the community need to be excluded regardless. Civility matters, but decency > civility, every time.
Good riddance, I hope one days there's an alternative to Discord, I don't really trust it anymore, but I can't think of a program that does the same thing but better.
Well, I do believe there's an open source Discord clone that's self-hostable too. It's called spacebar.
spacebar.chat
But does it have a user base?
...Well, some people use it. It can definitely work for your private servers!
Ahh...
Well gives me hope for the future at least
I have heard some people trued matrix, but apparently it's still kinda bad (or was a few months ago). The problem with switching is also always that most people still use the bad corpo site and you want to chat with your non-techie friends usually.
Trued Matrix?
No, because I was advised against by a peorson who tried it.
tried*
As soon as any one instance gets big enough and needs to get funding, the payment processors will crack down on allowed content. Don't like it? Tough luck in receiving the money people are trying to send you.
Just... Don't get big enough, right? Limit user sign-ups. That seems to be the obvious solution to this, no? More instances will pop up. Am I crazy?
Good point
Let me preface this by stating clearly that I am not a cryptobro, but this feels like one of the legitimate use cases for bitcoin or other crypto here.
Imo using crypto as an investment or maintaining an active wallet is fool's errand stuff, but as far as actual transactional use, this feels a viable workaround to depower Visa/MC.
Yes, but actually managing to use crypto for commerce is pretty tricky.
Not sure of the state of things currently, but back in the day it was so volatile that you had to buy more than you need because it might lose value before you could pay with it. And the company also couldn't cash out with the same value either. That's why Valve stopped accepting crypto if I remember correctly.
It would be nice if it actually worked well for that, but I expect if it ever did approach broad adoption the powers that be would come down hard on it to prevent losing their control.