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[–] gabelstapler@feddit.org 22 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Japan is living in the year 2000, since 50 years.

[–] Gutek8134@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] gabelstapler@feddit.org 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Largest market for fax machines...

[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not true. Their goverment stopped requiring floppy disks... *checks notes* ...last year!

[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

im sure its still the biggest market.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

There are some things where fax still makes sense. Maybe I'm old, but I'm not a fan of "digital signatures" and "digital seals" for professional licenses. In cases where a document needs to be signed and/or sealed, I would much prefer a fax to a PDF with a "digital seal". But that's just me and I'm a weird dude.

Edit: Turns out fax is insecure. Did not know this but it makes sense.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Modern PDF signing creates a digital fingerprint showing the device it was used on, whose credentials were used, a timestamp, and even a location if location services are turned on.

But yea, I guess all that just can't compete with the ironclad security of a fucking ink pen. Oh, sorry. A copy of an ink pen. So much more secure and traceable.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

There are some things where fax still makes sense

Nope.

Fax is insecure, you'd be better off signing w/o a "digital seal" or whatever and emailing it in. You can also print, sign, scan, and send, just like w/ a fax, but send as a PDF instead of insecurely over the telephone wires. I've done both digital signatures and scanned regular signatures, both work and are better than fax.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

I don't use fax... I was not aware that it was insecure but I guess that makes sense.

[–] tiramichu@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

Looking back, I think we can say that the year 2000 was a much better time than 2025

[–] unresolved@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 month ago

I think it means that they were ahead of the curve prior to the year 2000, which is when they started to fall behind the curve.

Not going to comment on the accuracy, but it makes sense to me.

[–] trustnoone@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago

I actually find this interesting, part of me wonders if there technological advancement meant they didn't need to make changes/innovation, which led to others having issues having to innovate beyond what Japan did.

Hence why they are still stuck in 2000s