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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

And? I'm at the point where I see it as gene removal from the pool

Sorry, not sorry. It sucks to be those kids but they can't be saved no matter what you do and these kids will be the next anti Vax generation anyway

Good riddance

[–] thebluehood_380@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Harsh.

low key agree tho

[–] Kage520@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Vaccines are not 100% effective. You need those kids to be vaccinated also or your vaccinated child would still run a 3% risk if exposed. I have terrible luck and that's not a risk I am willing to take.

My daughter's school will allow for medically necessary unvaccinated children (eg, immunocompromised so cannot take a live vaccine), but only until they hit the herd immunity limit. After that they turn away parents for the unvaccinated child because they have to protect the other children. Those parents will probably be frustrated at first but, recognizing the need for herd immunity from the school for their child, will be better off. They will just have to find a other school that has an opening. This shouldn't be hard if the only refusal for vaccines was for medical purposes, but it's getting harder these days.

Public schools should do this. I think some do, but maybe not. And certainly not with our current admin if they can force whatever they want. My point though is that it's not only the "stupid antivaxxer's kids" who will die. It's 3% of all the others. And that's just for measles. Polio is coming back too. Who knows what else.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 hours ago

Yes, vaccines are not 100% effective, and sometimes a vaccine will actually cause harm.

However, vaccinate 95+% of the population and you get there immunity and you can kill entire diseases

That no longer is possible now. It became dicey years ago but now that the conspiracy theorists won, all major diseases will make a comeback like there (for many people) literally is no tomorrow

[–] NeonNight@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A lot of us with conservative families would prefer not to be lumped in with them, not everyone follows their parents footsteps, especially with conservative ones.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 hours ago

Then seriously, leave. Leave the US.

That, or protest, rebel, fight back hard. Do whatever is needed to stop this madness.

I'm ao very sorry for you that you're an American and that you have to deal with this shit but please understand: The rest of the world didn't cause any of this. This, the past 5 decades and especially trump, is ALL on Americans and their attitudes. I'm sorry, but your country always has been a shit show that caused untold suffering and death world wide. Ask Iran, Chile, Nicaragua, and many other countries what they think of the US and Americans

And now the world has to deal with Cheeto. Apparently less than 50% of Americans voted, meaning that only about 25+%-ish voted trump. That makes 50% of Americans complicit in all this by not voting. Why the fuck didn't you vote?? You caused this.

The entire fucking world is upside down in chaos now. China will be emboldened to invade Taiwan, Russia is emboldened to invade the entire eastern Europe, Israel is emboldened to exterminate Palestinians in a genocide not seen since the one in WWII, you know, where Jews were purged... , Canadians, greenlandians, Panamanians, we're all scared shitless about an actual fucking invasion (which always comes with the fun of countless innocent deaths, hunger, suffering and traumas) because of this emperor Elmo and Cheeto shit.

So I'm sorry that lumping you in with conservatives makes you feel bad, but I got bigger problems to deal with. I need all Americans to get their shit together and stop this nonsense one way or the other, I don't want WWIII.