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I was almost with you on this one. Just because they're against the guys you don't like doesn't make them heroes.
Framing actual genocide as "guys you don't like" is so funny to me.
Entirely ignoring the point.
Perhaps shockingly to you, being against genocide doesn't make you a hero. Jeffrey Dahmer was presumably against the Holocaust. He's not going down in history as a hero.
Was Dahmer eating people to apply pressure to stop genocide?
Because that's the equivalent analogy.
His Dahmer analogy was bad.
But a terrible person who can correctly surmise that genocide is bad, is still a terrible person.
The Houthis have been committing war crimes for years before Oct 7th. They're not some freedom fighter group that popped up in 2023 only doing bad things to serve their greater goal of stopping Israeli genocide.
That's my entire point, they're not heroes just because you agree with their stance on Israel. I hope you don't agree with their stance on torture and child murder. You are against indiscriminate bombings of civilians when Israel does it, surely you're opposed to it when the Houthis do it.
Two organizations who disagree with each other can both be bad.
Not only is killing armed American/Israeli invaders not a war crime, it’s considered heroic by anyone with a brain. I know, shocking
And you feel the same about their attacks on Yemeni civilians? Also heroic?
"Just because they are stopping a genocide does not make them heroes"
Yes it does.
They are not stopping a genocide.
The stopped when food came into Gaza. At this point it is undeniable.
Everybody congratulate the Houthis for singlehandedly stopping Israel's attacks.
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. We all agree that they are doing their trading vessel attacks because they are against Israeli war crimes. Sure that is undeniable, but that's not what is at question. The Houthis do a lot of other stuff, inclusive of their own war crimes. So they're not good guys, they're not heroes, they're not a single issue group that only exists to stop Israel.
They're also not stopping the genocide.
In this genocide they are the good guys.
America does far more war crimes than the Houthis. Are you out there denouncing Bernie Sanders because he is part of America and thus not a good guy?
If Vermont Independents were killing civilians and he stayed in the group I would denounce Bernie Sanders yes. I am not denouncing the entire country of Yemen.
You don't get to pick conflict-by-conflict. "Going down in history as heroes" is about the totality of human action.
Condemn Bernie Sanders right now then
https://www.commondreams.org/news/sanders-gaza-cease-fire
I'm not following how you're getting to that conclusion about my stance with that link. He's a national politician talking about what the United States should do (in 2023). Clearly not as an acting member of a militant group.
Adolf Hitler was part of an official nation state while he committed genocide too. Weird criteria.
I'm not saying national leaders are immune from ethical liability no matter what, I'm saying I don't blame German Jews for the Holocaust just because they're German.
Track this back to the Houthis for me. You are arguing that America and the Houthis are both committing war crimes and are akin to Hitler so I should be against both of them, I'm a hypocrite for only calling out Houthis...and also you think Houthis are heroes?
Bernie was nog only German. Bernie is comparable to someone actively participating in the Nazi government. And actively voting for the Holocaust to happen.