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That's a bit disingenuous to the third of us who mock the people that wear the hoods and the masks
I hate this reality, as a fellow american, but there is a popular saying about sitting at a table with Nazis.
Nah you're not going to victim-blame me as an American just for continuing to exist within my country of residence, while a minority leadership fucks us all over. Everything I do is pretty fuckin' far from "sitting at the table with Nazis" in fact.
That’s all well and good, and you certainly shouldn’t be sharing details about “what you do” online. But I can’t exactly blame the rest of the world for lumping us all together until the tumor is excised.
I can. Believing that a country's authoritarian government represents its citizens is the kind of ignorance other countries have always accused Americans of.
There's probably nazis at their table right now
Minority leadership? Didn't he win pretty conclusive on all fronts?
@Eheran @RaoulDook no. Didn't get 50% of the vote. Only 1.7% margin vs Harris. 11th smallest margin ever (including 5 negative, eg 2016).
When he claims a landslide it's because he wants to claim he has a mandate.
TBH the numbers are really weird. Getting that small a margin but winning every swing state is not likely. And every county that flipped, flipped one way to him, which hasn't happened since Hoover. Again, on that margin that's quite the feat.
Winning all the swing states, including the ones that always go blue, is super unusual. It felt weird at the time, and now it seems like it was more than just weird.
Plus he controls all three branches of government …. On very slim margins but control is control
@AA5B that's why he's pulled Stefanik back in - he needs *every* seat
No. He won with 49.8% of the vote.
No, they fucking cheated. Of course they cheated, that's their brand. Even if every poll said they were going to win by 50 points, they'd still cheat because they could.
Remind me how excluding them mocking them not engaging with them. Working against their plans in the ways an individual can is sitting at the table with them.
well what is it?
If there’s a table of ten people talking to a Nazi, you have a table of eleven Nazis. It originates from Germany, who I would consider an authoritative source on the subject.
Shiggles, the way you said this makes it sound like you're calling every American in America a nazi. I doubt whether you intended this, but that is the reading people are responding to.
They are responding to a heinously stupid stance. I hope and trust you will see this.
I am an American who has been boycotting America as an immigrant elsewhere for the last 4 years. I had the understanding, privilege, and nerve to know all of this was coming down the pipe and to act accordingly.
Most Americans are not Nazis. The electoral system is not only systematically, but also in specific regulatory and monetary senses, skewed in the direction of Nazis. This has been an issue arguably since the Powell Memo half a century ago, but the roots of this poison go back all the way to before the country was an official entity.
I would love to be proven wrong, and to be just another overreacting fool.
Hasn’t happened yet.
You do not recant? If my testimony cannot move you, it is doubtful that you yearn to accept a contradiction, though it pleases you to pretend it.
I have forsaken a friend of over twenty years on these issues. I have made myself and my family immigrants among the English, all because I have known for years that America was fated for fascism. Still I do not say all Americans are Nazis.
If you brainlessly admit no nuance into the matter, why say anything at all? Better to remain silent and sneer at those less fortunate, like a fucking nazi.
If a nazi sits at a table with 4 people, there are 5 nazis.
What about if they invade your space, and take your tables?
It’s stupid to pick a fight you can’t win until you have no other choice. We had fights we could have won 4 years ago, but the Democrats (specifically Garland & Biden) fucked up and didn’t fight them.
The opposition are protesting and burning Teslas, and probably should as long as they can get away with it, since it takes away some of the head Nazi’s financial power. Right now, they can win small fights like that, but it could easily lead to more arrests and disenfranchising of leftist voters (if not worse, if the MAGATs are allowed to call it terrorism).
It makes little sense for opposition to just start improbable fights with MAGA when they’re in the position to be crushed by all three branches of government and the police forces by and large. Either the odds need to improve, or all other options need to vanish.
They just asked what the saying was.