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Hundreds of international students in the US are getting an email from the US Department of State (DOS) asking them to self-deport owing to campus activism. Immigration attorneys’ contacted by TOI affirmed this development and added a few Indian students may also be at the receiving end of such emails – for something as innocuous as sharing a social media post.

It is not just international students who physically participated in campus activism but also those who shared or liked ‘anti-national’ posts that are the target of these emails, said an immigration attorney.

This crackdown is based on social-media reviews being conducted by DOS (which includes Consulate officials). Thus, even new student applications be it for an F (academic study visa), M (vocational study visa) or J (exchange visa) will also come under such social media scrutiny.

Applicants will be denied the opportunity to study in the US.

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[–] Forester@pawb.social 128 points 3 days ago (3 children)

We've officially become the land of snowflakes.

[–] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 102 points 3 days ago

You’ve misspelled facist hellhole

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago (2 children)

No the mask just fell off

Can't turn into something you always were already

[–] Forester@pawb.social 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's a bit disingenuous to the third of us who mock the people that wear the hoods and the masks

[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I hate this reality, as a fellow american, but there is a popular saying about sitting at a table with Nazis.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Nah you're not going to victim-blame me as an American just for continuing to exist within my country of residence, while a minority leadership fucks us all over. Everything I do is pretty fuckin' far from "sitting at the table with Nazis" in fact.

[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That’s all well and good, and you certainly shouldn’t be sharing details about “what you do” online. But I can’t exactly blame the rest of the world for lumping us all together until the tumor is excised.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

I can. Believing that a country's authoritarian government represents its citizens is the kind of ignorance other countries have always accused Americans of.

[–] Auntievenim@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

There's probably nazis at their table right now

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Minority leadership? Didn't he win pretty conclusive on all fronts?

[–] Flisty@mstdn.social 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

@Eheran @RaoulDook no. Didn't get 50% of the vote. Only 1.7% margin vs Harris. 11th smallest margin ever (including 5 negative, eg 2016).
When he claims a landslide it's because he wants to claim he has a mandate.
TBH the numbers are really weird. Getting that small a margin but winning every swing state is not likely. And every county that flipped, flipped one way to him, which hasn't happened since Hoover. Again, on that margin that's quite the feat.

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 5 points 2 days ago

Winning all the swing states, including the ones that always go blue, is super unusual. It felt weird at the time, and now it seems like it was more than just weird.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Plus he controls all three branches of government …. On very slim margins but control is control

[–] Flisty@mstdn.social 2 points 3 days ago

@AA5B that's why he's pulled Stefanik back in - he needs *every* seat

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 3 points 3 days ago

No. He won with 49.8% of the vote.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 0 points 2 days ago

No, they fucking cheated. Of course they cheated, that's their brand. Even if every poll said they were going to win by 50 points, they'd still cheat because they could.

[–] Forester@pawb.social 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Remind me how excluding them mocking them not engaging with them. Working against their plans in the ways an individual can is sitting at the table with them.

[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If there’s a table of ten people talking to a Nazi, you have a table of eleven Nazis. It originates from Germany, who I would consider an authoritative source on the subject.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Shiggles, the way you said this makes it sound like you're calling every American in America a nazi. I doubt whether you intended this, but that is the reading people are responding to.

They are responding to a heinously stupid stance. I hope and trust you will see this.

I am an American who has been boycotting America as an immigrant elsewhere for the last 4 years. I had the understanding, privilege, and nerve to know all of this was coming down the pipe and to act accordingly.

Most Americans are not Nazis. The electoral system is not only systematically, but also in specific regulatory and monetary senses, skewed in the direction of Nazis. This has been an issue arguably since the Powell Memo half a century ago, but the roots of this poison go back all the way to before the country was an official entity.

[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I would love to be proven wrong, and to be just another overreacting fool.

Hasn’t happened yet.

You do not recant? If my testimony cannot move you, it is doubtful that you yearn to accept a contradiction, though it pleases you to pretend it.

I have forsaken a friend of over twenty years on these issues. I have made myself and my family immigrants among the English, all because I have known for years that America was fated for fascism. Still I do not say all Americans are Nazis.

If you brainlessly admit no nuance into the matter, why say anything at all? Better to remain silent and sneer at those less fortunate, like a fucking nazi.

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If a nazi sits at a table with 4 people, there are 5 nazis.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What about if they invade your space, and take your tables?

It’s stupid to pick a fight you can’t win until you have no other choice. We had fights we could have won 4 years ago, but the Democrats (specifically Garland & Biden) fucked up and didn’t fight them.

The opposition are protesting and burning Teslas, and probably should as long as they can get away with it, since it takes away some of the head Nazi’s financial power. Right now, they can win small fights like that, but it could easily lead to more arrests and disenfranchising of leftist voters (if not worse, if the MAGATs are allowed to call it terrorism).

It makes little sense for opposition to just start improbable fights with MAGA when they’re in the position to be crushed by all three branches of government and the police forces by and large. Either the odds need to improve, or all other options need to vanish.

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

They just asked what the saying was.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Quit trying to normalize fascism!

[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

that is the Democrats job

Republicans do all the implementing

[–] tacobellhop@midwest.social 9 points 2 days ago

This is palantir at work.

[–] UltraBlack@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Intentional brain drain. That can only end well, can it?

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We are getting closer to a tank called to counter ant-genocide or anti-nazi protest.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago

Yes. It's only been a bit over 2 months.

[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 67 points 3 days ago

As a United States dissident fuck this country

Only goal in this country has been oppression of citizens so as to have a stock of warm bodies to fill the factories, restaurants, ecectera since the start

Same reason Republicans got Roe v Wade overturned and the same reason Democrats never defended it

Also same reason neither party has pushed for living wages and of course students have to go especially the college taught ones because they might disrupt the system with all that new found knowledge

Pollution is also kept high because it breeds low class pull up by your own bootstraps bubba spitting rednecks that will help continue the narrative of the system as well as provide a stable slave labor workforce

Education funding is kept at abysmally low levels for the same reasons

Constant crapper drain that for the citizens never ends but constantly churns out products for consumption for the small population actually running things

Eventually it be the same as that short story by the Chinese author that is about the last capitalist

About a dude that buys everything on the planet including air which he generously sells back to all the citizens who are unable to afford to go outside because they don't own the land or air as well as selling other resources which no one can go without with police being used to protect the interests/property of the last capitalist

Eventually the benevolent capitalist builds a space ship very economically including cryotubes because he did not include enough air or air makers for the ship and proceeds to evict everyone off his planet earth

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Will it be safe for them to leave?

[–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago

The longer they stick around, the less safe they'll be.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago

Probably safer than a El Salvadoran prison.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 3 days ago
[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

Happened the moment the first ships landed here hundreds of years ago