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[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah I caught that too, I'd be curious to know more about what specifically they meant by that.

Being able to link all of the words that have a similar meaning, say, nearby, close, adjacent, proximal, side-by-side, etc and realize they all share something in common could be done in many ways. Some would require an abstract understanding of what spatial distance actually is, an understanding of physical reality. Others would not, one could simply make use of word adjacency, noticing that all of these words are frequently used alongside certain other words. This would not be abstract, it'd be more of a simple sum of clear correlations. You could call this mathematical framework a universal language if you wanted.

Ultimately, a person learns meaning and then applies language to it. When I'm a baby I see my mother, and know my mother is something that exists. Then I learn the word "mother" and apply it to her. The abstract comes first. Can an LLM do something similar despite having never seen anything that isn't a word or number?

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Can an LLM do something similar despite having never seen anything that isn’t a word or number?

No.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't think that's really a fair comparison, babies exist with images and sounds for over a year before they begin to learn language, so it would make sense that they begin to understand the world in non-linguistic terms and then apply language to that. LLMs only exist in relation to language so couldnt understand a concept separately to language, it would be like asking a person to conceptualise radio waves prior to having heard about them.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Exactly. It's sort of like a massively scaled up example of the blind man and the elephant.