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[-] The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I did make the changes personally.

Then congratulations! You are part of a different kind of 1%, and you perfectly understand what the other user is saying and are just arguing for the sake of arguing.

The reality is, most people don't want to make any changes. You can't change the system if the people themselves are not opening to change.

Though experiment:

Tomorrow is election day in your country. The stout environmentalists win control of the government and proceed to make the following changes:

  • Carbon tax, which increases the price of gas, which itself results in an increase in shipping anything. It also directly raises the price of anything that produces carbon in its manufacture process, such as anything made of plastic.

  • An end to meat subsidies - maybe even a tax on it - and an increase to subsidizing other types of farming.

  • A ban on single use plastics.

  • And anything else you think might be necessary.

Now the questions: How long until they get kicked out? How long until the protests and riots? How long until a new government undoes it all?

I'm assuming you're not naive and you don't live in a bubble. You should know the majority of people will not be fans of any of that; and with the way it usually goes and the pendulum swings, the government that follows it will be a far right one.

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