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The arrogance of assuming that anyone who didn't vote or who voted third party, just automatically owe your party their vote.
The entrenched two-party system has done more to cripple democracy in America than any other factor, and yet it's so pervasive that y'all whip each other into line trying to shame anyone who tries to break free of it.
I guess we’re all better off now having learned a valuable lesson, aren’t we? So… How exactly would you like your ‘thank you’ presented?
Arrogance indeed.
The only way the dems could have won in 2024 is if they did what is popular with their base. This applies to literally every election. You should be furious that they lost to Donald fucking Trump twice because they thought they could win while enacting policies they knew would decrease turnout.
They have their own polling, they know there's not a bunch of voters who just hate tiktok and will vote for tax credits to buy healthcare for first-generation college grads who run a small business in an under-served community for 3 years, but won't vote for free healthcare.
No messaging could have made genocide in gaza popular, it's not the people telling the democrats to stop giving Israel fucking bombs who made facilitating genocide unpopular. The only people who could have changed whether Palestine hurt the dems or helped them were the dems. They decided unlimited support for a genocidal settler colonial state was more important than winning.
Well it’s a good thing we dodged that bullet, isn’t it?
And yeah, I’m furious that ninety three million people were told what was going to happen and chose to not vote anyway.
Unpopular policy decreases turnout. That's just how democracy works. The narrative of blaming the voters just serves to distract from the only people who could have changed the outcome of the last election and will be the only ones who can change the outcome of future lessons.
If Trump runs for a third term, and the democrats run on building the wall and defunding the government, the same fucking thing will happen.
Arrogance is believing that for some reason despite everything that happened in the last year of her term in office that magically this person who had no concrete message or goals except the continuation of the genocide of people living in tents would be the savior somehow.
She's just another corporate politician who takes orders from donors and she's a COP at that - so keep constructing this fantastical image in your head that you think your choice was the answer. She wasn't and will never be. That's why we are stuck with Trump.
DUH.
Again, you keep talking about how bad Kamala is, and side-step the disaster that we currently live under.
But whatever helps you cope, right?
Why are liberals so incredibly dense?
Her platform and being the worst candidate ever is the reason we got Trump, but for some reason you ignore this and blame voters.
The democrats played everyone and where are these staunch defenders of democracy now?
Patting themselves on the back for giving meaningless speeches while Trump disassembles democracy.
And these are the people you thought would save you?
I see on another one of your posts that you are angry 90 million people didn't vote. What makes you think they would have voted for the fraud Kamala even though they could have and didn't? What did she offer them? The answer is .... NOTHING.
And now that Trump is torching the constitution where is Coconut Kamala?
Why giving speeches at Australian real estate events. Nothing says "I'm defending America" like giving Australian real estate speeches.
Your finger pointing is very devisive and exactly what I would expect out of a pampered liberal. Open your eyes and see the truth.
So, this conversation got me thinking. I’ve been wanting to get in better shape lately, but I’m wondering if doing things like… exercising, is really the right way to go about it.
It seems the best advice from all the people that clearly know how everything works, is to do absolutely nothing at all. Because historically, we all know that great change comes from inaction, right? So why not try it? Let’s see if sitting on my ass and watching other people exercise will help me become more fit.
Wish me luck!
Nice - you just perfectly described the value of a vote for Kamala.
It is the equivalent of sitting on your ass and hoping things get better because that's exactlty what the democrats are doing right now.
Enjoying things so far? Think Kamala would have ended DEI? Put Elon in charge? The Insurrection Act. Think Kamala had that in mind? Or what about the tariffs? I don’t recall Kamala saying anything about that. Or Canada becoming the 51st state. All the shit trump has done….
Think Kamala would have done this shit?
See? You spend so much time trying to justify the intention, while hoping you’ll be spared the responsibly you share in the result.
Take a look around.
If you seriously can say that things are the same as what Kamala would have done, then I suppose I can see what made you stay home and let others deal with it-
And that would be your entitlement.
You clearly have no dog in this race. And if that’s the case, then I suppose you’re exempt from any and all responsibility that a person with a properly functioning moral compass should feel.
I think Kamala and Trump both were going to continue sending billions of our tax dollars to a terrorist state in the Middle East so that they could continue obliterating families living in tents with 1000lb bombs.
I know that whatever is being allowed to happen there will come here eventually whether you want to believe it or not. Gaza is a test ground.
If you can't see how that state owns the politicians that are supposed to be representing you, I don't know what to tell you at this point. There is are really big internal problems and crisises that those billions of dollars could be spent at home on. Instead they both greenlight evil.
I can honestly say I voted against genocide and against foreign influence over our politicians. Those who voted for Trump and Kamala cannot.
Since the majority of voters felt that genocide was not a red line, maybe now is the time to evaluate what morals and values actually matter for us to thrive as a society and start living them. For example: I will never vote for a politician with ties to the genociders ever again. That is the only way out for all of us.
Imagine if most people chose the anti-genocide candidates. That would have been really cool and not this disappointing disaster that feels righteously karmic in so many ways.
I’m glad your conscious is clear. I hope losing our democracy was worth it.
Any democracy that votes in favor of supplying weapons and money to a state genociding an occupied people is no democracy I want to be a part of.
You might be ok with your politicians supporting innocent people being murdered while they sleep or eat or pray or walk down the street or take a shower or exist and that it's all paid for by your tax dollars.
I'm not.
Cool story. It’s all still happening despite your single-issue protest- only the destruction is going to be exponentially worse.
But you already knew that, didn’t you?
Yes, and it would still be happening if your cadidate Holocaust Harris won also which is why I did not vote for her.
You would just be more comfortable with it happening under democrats than republicans because you are the prime example of #bluemagabrainrot.
Naah.. I’d be more okay without because we wouldn’t have a convicted rapist and a Nazi violating constitutional law every day.
Your entitlement is showing.
We’re doing quotes now? Okay-
“We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”
– Adolf Hitler
I love that one.
Considering the source, I assumed you would.
I find it hilarious that the person who actively supports murdering Palestinians is calling me a Nazi.
You must be from Israel.
And I find you hilarious.
Not much of a democracy if "not doing a holocaust" wasn't an option. Doesn't seem like a big loss.
Again, your entitlement is showing. But don’t let that get in the way of an agenda.
You’re not the good guy you think you are.
My entitlement? I'm not the one saying genocide is ok so long as I'm comfortable.
And lol at "an agenda" as if being opposed to genocide is a bad thing
So you're here accusing anyone else of supporting genocide.. Whilst you're reporting posts of people who argue against you to server admins hoping to silence them.
You might not support genocide, but you definitely support fascism, and aren't a fan of freedom of speech either apparently. Just incredibly duplicitous behavior..
And I'm guessing your agenda is to argue with people until it leads to insults and then you hope their posts get deleted when you report them. I also the impression that server admins recognized your name (so no doubt, I'm not the only person you tried it with)..
Blah blah blah. Yeah. We get it
Everyone else except you supports genocide.
You're saying you don't support genocide, but you're clearly the kind of narcissist who would even punish vulnerable people who disagreed with you.
God help us if you ever get any real control
No, lots of people don't support genocide. You just don't realize it because you do support it, and you're too much of a narcissist to realize that you're not the default person.
Hourly reminder that BlueMAGA chuds don't consider Palestinians to be people.
Yes, God help us if people who value human life get control. Unsurprising that you prefer the genocide psychopaths who currently have real control.
Blah blah blah. Just repeat what everyone says, and say it back to them.
Report us all again to the SS for execution. That's your thing.
"fascism is when you oppose genocide"
Fascism is forceable suppression of opposition.
The only one who has actually proven they do that (by reporting people who haven't broken any rules to silence them)is you.. Making you a fascist
Everything else here is just accusations of such by yourself with no evidence (and lots of evidence against)
Nobody understands what you mean.
Nobody here supports genocide or war. But your actions by reporting innocent critics of yours to try and silence them proves you support fascism!
Lol, a very reasonable, and not at all hysterical and myopic comparison. I too remember the terrible crimes of the Nazis: reporting the Jews on social media
fascist.
Lol
Lol rofl. Lmao. You're a proven fascist
Deeply unserious
And I’m not the one misquoting people in order to manufacture an argument.
This is why it’s advised to never argue with children. Even when you win, you still lose.
No, you're just straight up lying. And I didn't misquote anyone.
Sorry, I didn't realise you were a child
The cringe is unbearable, so I’m going to walk away from this now. I never knew empathetic embarrassment via written word to be a thing before today.
Enjoy the last word, and be sure to bait the line with your best stuff. I’d like to see how easily I can resist.
A server admin has told me that BrainInabox is reporting people who argue with them, and that included me..
So, your instinct is right on mate. Their actions don't match their suggestion that they actually give a damn about people. They seem to be a strong supporter of fascism and silencing anyone they disagree.. Kind of like trump..
Yeah.. they’re a massive debate troll. I think they’re perma-banned in both communities I moderate but I’m not sure why they’re still allowed in others.
"Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."
-Jean-Paul Sartre