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[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 38 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Seriously blaming the tankies again? How bourgeoisie of you lol

If you want to blame something, blame the media. Both news and social media have completely sold out for profit. You CANNOT have a democracy if vast parts of your population is being misinformed. And this started with talk radio in rural areas many decades ago. And the democrats did nothing - because they are not left. Thanks for all the empty "Hope and Change" Obama!

So yeah, blame socialists all you want but their critique was valid.

You need a revolution or reformation. A massive change in who owns the means of communication to have a free press again that is not purely profit driven. Can you even imagine that? Is that something you would say? No. You'd rather blame and denigrate socialists and call them tankies. Look at the mass protests, it seems the libs aren't even calling for Trump to step down and demand new election lol. People would rather bow to unjust laws and simplistic principles than believe in democracy. Of course they are all being stage managed.

But this is just pathetic.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (7 children)

Most of the mainstream media is owned by a few rich fucks, corporations who strive to make money. Corporations love fascism because that gives them more power and less regulations, so ofc they do everything in their power to enable fascism.

The biggest lie I was told in school was that the market is thriving in competition, it doesn't. Corporations always want monopolies, so competitors are usurped and driven out by any means necessary.

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[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 34 points 5 days ago (54 children)

Republicans are always evil. They don't do anything good. Ever. They're a known quantity. That's what we expect of them.

We expect the Dems to be better. And they get the smoke when they fail at that. Cutting Corp taxes. Border crackdowns. Genocide. Those are things that should exclusively be the pervue of Republicans. If dems run to the right they will always lose because the right was so triggered by Obama that policy doesn't matter to them whatsoever. It's purely teamsport for them. You can't appeal to them in any way. They see a (D) and vote against that person. Dems would never lose another election if they went only as far left as Bernie Sanders. We would have a perpetually booming economy and a high standard of living. But even that is far too far for the DNC Services Corp. So we get a gameshow host and a car salesman destroying everything.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 49 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

If centrists wanted criticism of republicans, they could have done that more.

But then they might not have got the endorsement of dick cheney. establishment democrats punched left and embraced the right.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 5 days ago

Its like how they never go after the war crimes of the last guy, it would open themselves to be prosecuted for their own war crimes.

Why call out the bad things Trump does when you can court the mythical unicorn of "the disillusioned Republican" who is somehow not a total Fox News-brainwashed racist dipshit. Calling him and his supporters would would hurt a possible ex-Trump voter. All 4 of them.

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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 19 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Yes it was the "slight corruption" that "tankies" are criticizing Dems for. Give me a break.

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[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 114 points 6 days ago (32 children)

It pisses me off to no end when people conflate legitimate criticism of Democrats with tankie rhetoric. The Dems are complacent, listless, corrupt, and lazy. They refuse to stand up to the Republicans until it's too late or doesn't matter.

The people want progressive politics: universal healthcare, living wage, affordable housing, education, and food. We want a sustainable future and an end to corporate greed.

The donor class, superpacs, and other sources of dark money in politics are what keep nearly everyone corrupt. Its addictive.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 53 points 5 days ago (22 children)

It pisses me off to no end when people conflate legitimate criticism of Democrats with tankie rhetoric.

Last election season went something like this:

Progressives: "Please stop sending weapons to a genocidal maniac who is using them to murder children in order to grab land. And stop actively protecting said genocidal maniac from consequences in the international community."

Establisment: "STFU tankie!"

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 14 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Honestly the fact that the entire country keeps getting mad at Democrats while taking an "Aw shucks, who hasn't tried to do a coup de tat or shifted blame for your actions onto a minority group. All is forgiven!" Attitude with Republicans, is...

Just fucking bizarre.

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[–] peppers_ghost@lemmy.ml 54 points 5 days ago (4 children)

The difference is we don't expect anything good from Republicans. We expect libs to at least try but they'd rather punch left than effectively govern.

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[–] Muyal@lemmy.world 46 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Current US: a neoliberal capitalist nightmare being ruined by CEOs

Your most intelligent American: This is definitely the socialists' fault

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 5 days ago (1 children)

CEOs, openly supporting Trump to win: "This is good for business, he'll make us richer."

Liberals: "This is the fault of like 100 people online who like socialism on the internet, where 1% of Americans are even aware of the place."

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[–] echolalia@lemmy.ml 70 points 5 days ago (16 children)

"Tankies" made no measurable difference in the 2024 election. There's next to none of them in the USA. Go ahead: ask real people in your offline life what a tankie is, and see if even one single person has even heard that word.

Unless, of course, you're just applying that word to anyone whos not a Republican that's criticizing the dems. Then I suppose you'll find "tankies" everywhere.

It feels like a word that's just being used to divide the left.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 51 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It’s the lib version of “woke”; it’s not even used for its original meaning anymore

“All the tankie college kids who love Hamas lost Kamala the election” ok Kristen I’m sure they’re tankies. Please just finish watching your DVR of the Today show

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 74 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (10 children)

I’m just punching right. Tell the Dems to stop standing there.

And it was the Dems who sued the socialist candidate off of the ballot in my state. Not the GOP. They occupy leftist space to prevent leftward movement, while Dems ally with the GOP to push through fascism.

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 51 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (110 children)

6 months in and Liberals are still trying to blame their election loss on the left.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 39 points 5 days ago

Ja, this meme is tripe. Tankies are the Lemmy bogeyman, used the same as 'woke' by the right.

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[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 41 points 5 days ago

I'm punching to the right, it's not my fault the Dems are always standing there 🤷

[–] PantanoPete@lemmy.zip 40 points 5 days ago (1 children)

yeah the like 10 tankies in the US really threw that election...? The takes from people on lemmy are so fucking strange.

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[–] FE80@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The Republicans Should've Faced Way More Criticism During The 2024 Presidential Campaign

Kamala Harris campaigned with Liz Cheney. The fuck is wrong with you?

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[–] MortUS@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Look at the division in this thread.

A U.S. President is literally trying to recreate the conditions of 1930s Germany by tanking the economy and isolating us from our international partners.

Stop looking for someone to blame and put out the current dumpster fire before it catches the grease.

Get out and protest. Get your boots on the ground.

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[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 33 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Really..? I feel like all the tankie (tanky?) discourse I've personally seen has only had vile hatred to say about trump. (namely hexbear)

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[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Why would you expect media outlets mostly owned by the Oligarchs to criticize the people the oligarchs want to put into power?

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[–] manicdave@feddit.uk 20 points 5 days ago

Republicans are going to republican. Democrats at least have the pretense of representing their constituents interests.

It's like if an oil tanker that takes ten miles to stop was bearing down on a small passenger ferry. Sure it might be the fault of the tanker's crew but they can't stop and they won't stop. The democrats driving the ferry have the capacity to easily save everyone on board and simply refuse to do so. That's why people shout at them.

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