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[โ€“] CelloMike@lemmy.world 85 points 5 days ago (7 children)

If engineers had our way all buildings would look like this

This is the ideal building. You may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like ๐Ÿ˜†

This is what's known in the Midwest as "tornado bait"

Dogshit R-factor, poor impact resistance, I mean that's the obvious stuff lol

Peak performance is highly dependent on who's defining it ๐Ÿ˜

[โ€“] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Why not continue the brick shell at least to eye level? Why does it stop at waist level?

[โ€“] paranoia@feddit.dk 34 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Brick expensive :(

panel cheap :)

[โ€“] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The real question is, why is there any brick at all?

(The answer is almost certainly that somebody other than the engineer imposed the requirement.)

[โ€“] AllYourSmurf@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Brick waterproof.

Brick termite-proof.

Brick fireproof.

[โ€“] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Panel same (probably, depending what kind of panel).

[โ€“] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

No, panel only as waterproof as the coating protecting it. Brick is rock, takes centuries to wear out.

[โ€“] myrrh@ttrpg.network 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

...masonry wainscots look tacky-as-heck but they provide impact and moisture resistance where it's needed most...

[โ€“] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Is masonry really cheaper than using a slightly thicker gauge of steel and a decent epoxy paint for the bottom few feet?

[โ€“] myrrh@ttrpg.network 5 points 3 days ago

...it's far more durable, mostly...

[โ€“] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 8 points 5 days ago

Brick? Pfft. Concrete elements all the way. There's no equal.

[โ€“] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My neighbour shop looks exactly like that. It went bankrupt cuz it's ugly as fuck

[โ€“] Letsdothisok@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

"Shop"? Depending on the type - and I don't want to jump to conclusions - I doubt it being ugly was a major part of its bankruptcy.

[โ€“] myrrh@ttrpg.network 1 points 4 days ago

...i prefer corrugated arch structures, but rigid frames are popular for good reason...

[โ€“] Pilon23@feddit.dk 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Mind explaining why this is peak performance? ELI5 if possible

[โ€“] CelloMike@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Engineers love these things because they're real easy to design, and very efficient in usable volume vs materials (which is why they're used for every warehouse/big store/factory)

Obviously not great for living in or anything but that's the joke :)

[โ€“] Pilon23@feddit.dk 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Very interesting! I never thought of that before. On the building pictured, which would take least effort to double the storage space - making it twice as long, wide or tall?

[โ€“] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Do you really mean "effort" (and if so, whose?) or do you mean cost? The other reply is correct that making it twice as long would minimize the need to redesign, but without doing the math (I am a civil engineer, but I can't be bothered) I suspect making it twice as tall would use the least additional materials and therefore be cheapest. (That assumes taking advantage of the extra height for storage is the client's problem, not the engineer's. Having to put in a second story floor would change things.)

[โ€“] Pilon23@feddit.dk 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I guess I was thinking about cost when I said effort. I figured maybe building up would also provide more design challenges to keep the thing from collapsing, or is that negligible?

[โ€“] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

You'll have a little bit more wind loading and you may have to put in a little bit of thought into the size and bracing of the vertical support columns to make sure the extra length doesn't risk buckling, but that's pretty much it.

[โ€“] CelloMike@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Twice as long - all the structural elements are the same, you just line up more of them