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Update: it took time. And then a quick pry with a knife. Saved the dishes. Ravioli saved too but for raccoons outside probably lol. What I learned about physics....sheesh.

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[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 60 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Cool one slightly while warming the other.

[–] echo 42 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Probably sit the bowl in warm water with ice on the plate. That will increase the pressure inside and aide in the separation.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Would you want the opposite?

I thought heading the bowl will expand it slightly and increase the suction, cooling it will shrink it and reduce it.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 43 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hot air expands and cold air contracts. You want the air in the bowl to be hot so it's not creating negative pressure.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I did not think of that, thanks!

[–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Its the same thing that happens with fridges and freezers. But they have become better at equaling the pressue.

PV=nRT https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideal_gas_law

Change in temperature (T) means a change in volume and/or pressure

[–] tenchiken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The air inside is what is causing the vacuum heat the air, expansion, less vacuum. Cool the air, shrinks, more suction.

Heating both likely the smoothest solution.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

Thanks! I had not factored that in

[–] echo 6 points 3 days ago

I could be wrong, but I really believe heating the bowl is the correct answer.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why would you want to cool the plate?

[–] echo 1 points 2 days ago

You want to create expansion in one and shrinkage in the other so that you have movement that helps break the seal. Technically you could do one or the other, but it'll create more net change if you do both.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 days ago

No, warm the whole thing to heat the air inside