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Not just fascists, also those who empower fascists by sitting on their lazy ignorant smug asses on Election Day, bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe, who want some sort of collapse to happen... because they fancy themselves at the top of their imagined new "purity" food chain, I mean... look at their purity! Aren't they so special and so above it all?
They read things! On the internet! Wow!
They reject anything that doesn't fit their narrative. They LOVE having their hollow ego massaged in circlejerks and by bad-faith actors.
God forbid anything less than perfect and pure crosses their medieval path, lest they feel offended and... oh yeah, they do nothing. Which is why we're in this goddamned mess in the first place. They allowed racist, misogynistic fascism to take firm root, good luck weeding it out now.
Fascists are not empowered by political apathy. If that were the case, you'd be able to provide evidence that states or nations with low voter turnout always turn fascist. 80% of voters turned out in 1932 when the Nazis became the most powerful party. Political apathy can be a result of burgeoning fascism - among other things. How do you think fascism arose in Germany? People being lazy?
Chalking up fascism to poltical apathy is what happens when you fail to look at fascism as a function of class dynamics and class conflict - and furthermore, fail to see the generations-old pattern of regulatory agencies being captured, special interests dominating political commentary, rampant lobbying, decaying education, wages being suppressed, healthcare being denied, transportation services rendered useless, etc...
If, at the end of this devolution into fascism, your only takeaway is "Damn lazy tankies and russian spies destroyed America!", then you haven't learned your lesson, and you've fallen in perfect lockstep with your liberal forerunners who made the exact same mistakes.
It's telling that you folks never engage when leftists point out that when the democrats had a choice between slowing fascism and committing genocide on Palestinians, they chose to do genocide all for sweet AIPAC dollars.
The simple fact is that Biden's and Kamala's constituents wanted an end to genocide. Biden and Kamala ignored these constituents. Biden and Kamala lost. That couldn't be a more democratic outcome; it's more American than Apple pie. If you say "fuck you" to your constituents, it's a safe bet you'll lose them, and if this is a calculus that some dumb ass like me can make, you know that higher levels of democratic leadership were aware of the risks and chose to take them anyway. The democrats are controlled opposition.
If you are a liberal reading this thread and are starting to see holes pop up in the logic and reasoning of your colleagues, or have correctly identified that the liberals are ill-equipped to deal with this devolution, I'd encourage you to learn what Marxism really is - beyond the spark notes you got from your conservative history teacher in high school.
https://socialistra.org/edu/
bOtH siDeS tHo!
So you didn’t vote for the “gEnOciDeR”, how’s that working out for you?
Take a look around at the paradise that your inaction has caused.
It's still shocking to me that people were stupid enough to believe that Jim Crow Joe would be a remedy for fascism in the first place.
It's doubly shocking to me that you've already forgot about Roe v Wade, most deportations in history (even more than now), building and expansion of prisons/cop cities, expanded drone strikes/kidnappings, start of multiple genocides, etc. and then feel entitled enough to be this fucking glib.
You have not been paying attention. If you believe in electoralism then stop punching down and redirect your rage at those who actually have power to change things within that system.
What’s shocking are all the fucking dipshits that think staying home and doing nothing at all is the best course of action to stop an anthropomorphic buttplug from overthrowing democracy.
And what’s more shocking, is that their smug entitlement is so strong that they refuse to acknowledge their fault in the shitshow that is going on around them.
For fuck’s sake! Even some of the conservatives have come forward to admit they fucked up! But no, rank and file of those ignorant little shithead protest voting assholes are still folding their arms and yet, have the audacity to blame people that fucking voted?
Shocking indeed.
Kamala won my state, you're just mad that people don't have the religious faith in voting and American 'democracy' that you do.
maybe try something other than blaming people to your left when the pathetic centrists lose to Republicans after insisting on doing a genocide. You might even be able to mentally move on from it and have some new ideas to share with everyone besides crying about 'tankies' (whoever you disagree with)
How about you worry about your own victimized bullshit and stop making edits to who I am?
And I’ll put the blame where it likes. 91 million of you didn’t participate in the one thing you cold have done to stop this.
It’s YOUR fault no matter how you twist reality.
you are incapable of criticism of power, only shitting on people who have none.
Oh I can criticize power plenty. But a vote is the only thing the powerless have that influences power.
And you tossed yours away on bullshit you didn’t even care about a year earlier.
Excuse me, that 'bullshit' is me for taking exception with the government representing me participating the final solution.
you can't say the Democrats are evil for doing that, just that everyone better shut up and vote for them. authoritarian ass party
lol…. I really hope one day, you are capable of fully understanding what you’ve done here.
And for your sake, I hope you’re able to come to terms with it. Because while your political take is absolute fucking garbage, that doesn’t mean you’re not capable of being a cool person in spite of it.
ty for saying something that wasn't just dismissive/condescending. You can dislike my political position or the things I'm saying but it's really really not swaying anyone to act like that.
Oh, I’m not trying to sway anyone. That time was pre-election. I just want those that stayed home or voted for worthless spoiler candidates to admit their mistake and then make an effort to ensure it doesn’t happen again.
But as of now, they’re every bit like the majority of conservatives in being too fucking smug to admit they fucked up.
(I said “the majority of” because at least some of those assholes have publicly admitted they fucked up)
the only people to blame for Trump's presidency are the people that voted for him and funded him. like Hilary Clinton.
I’ll discuss this with Diva because I can at least somewhat respect her stance in small doses.
You?
I’ve seen how you seem to enjoy making stupid shit up. Shit like… suggesting Hillary funded Trump. And frankly, it’s just not worth the time.
If you're an eligible voter and didn't vote for Harris you looked at Trump style facism and decided you were okay with it. Don't blame other people for your choices.
I voted for a communist because I was tired of both Harris style fascism AND Trump style fascism.
you lot have a religious conviction in voting and we don't even have a popular vote!
Then you helped Trump win. Plains as.
Kamala won my state, we don't elect the president with popular vote, even if she had won it.
You are perpetually online as everyone says. Fascinating!
sometimes my work schedule lets me post, sometimes it doesn't.
Riiiiiiight. Work.
you can only muster up smug condescension for people who disagree with you, I bet you're great at parties
I mean, at least I’m invited to them
Hey someones gotta be the one doing the inviting, I help organize a free food party every week
😎🛹
Im sure that helps you to sleep much better. I can’t imagine the honesty it would take to come clean and admit that I was one of ninety million people that helped Trump win through complacency.
I suppose I’d be doing what I can to absolve myself of it through charity as well. But then again, I’m smart enough to believe someone when they tell me who they are, as well as what they’re going to do.
You know this would happen. You did nothing.
no, they didnt
Yep, they did. It’s in the numbers bud.
So you threw your vote away in protest.
My vote was already 'thrown away' because the system is not set up to represent me.
You still dig into the very same ignorance that got us here.
Remarkable!
The system deserves to be treated with contempt, and organized outside of. I'm just beating the same drum I always do.
Take a look around. How’d that pan out for you?
Oh, and… enjoy that drum while you can, because it’s going to be take away from you by the people you helped put in power.
id rather be dead than participate in a genocide, sorry
And your lack of action might very well allow that wish to come true
Well… make sure you don’t avert your eyes when the full weight of what you helped accomplish comes pressing down on your brothers and sisters in the LGBTQ+, your mothers, your sisters… because we’re seeing it play out with immigration right now, but trust me when I say I’ve read Project 2025….
They’re all next on the list.
Yes, we all are, I'm visibly trans IRL too you know.
Recall the first they came poem?
Well this time around the verses would have started with Palestinians - really hard to be surprised when that same process plays out once more. It's why I have the positions I do, participating in that genocide the way we did set the stage for where we are now.
How would I know? And considering the topic, why would it matter? You clearly didn’t take into consideration the damage the Trump administration promised would happen to the LGBTQ+, so your gender is as irrelevant to the topic as mine is.
All things being equal, everyone is fucked. And you helped make that happen.
As far as the Palestinians, they’re no less fucked either, so you sacrificed everything for nothing. I’m guessing you’ve studied The Art Of The Deal pretty intensely?
My vote had literally no impact and Kamala won my state. She ate shit everywhere else due to her participation in the genocide without my assistance. I think I assessed the situation and the impacts of my vote just fine.
Maybe try listening to me next time instead of dismissing me like you always do.
And they'll do it again because they simply don't understand how math and a two party, FPtP system works.
Instead they'll cry that they aren't being directly catered to.
Oh look, there are some now.
That’s exact it. I called this even before November. I said they would all run their mouths and scream gEnOciDE at everyone including themselves, and that if/when Trump got elected, they’d reroll as victims of their own bullshit.
I suppose one could say that at least some of them have the balls to stick with their main character…
the victimhood still remains.
I enjoy Lemmy for the most part, but this popular narrative that you continue to correctly point out gets so tiring on here. The self-ownership, or self-sabotage by these self-righteous, elementary level critical thinking skills having, non-voters is sickening. If I didn't vote, I wouldn't take it as some moral victory against a fucked up system, I'd just accept my apathy.