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[–] mystik@lemmy.world 211 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

Only a shock to folks who still think Democrat centerists are what's gonna win the votes

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 110 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"We want to maintain the status quo that led to the election of Trump twice!"

[–] CheeseToastie@lazysoci.al 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Mac@mander.xyz 6 points 5 days ago

Because no matter who is in office they're still part of the enrichment scheme that is our government. They don't really care who wins or loses because it doesn't really affect them.
That's why it's important to be represented by the marginalized so that the decisions actually matter to the people making them.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 5 days ago

I read it as "it's a shock that she came in second" lol

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 days ago (6 children)

I will vote for AOC with pride. But I'm leery about running another woman right now. Neither Hillary nor Kamala could win against Trump.

That said, I can't think of anyone I'd be happier to vote for. I dream of her being President. I don't know if swing states will have it, but I would fight to make it so.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 57 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Hillary Clinton won the popular vote. There's no statistical difference in the chances of victory between men and women when running for political office. Lots of Republican politicians are women. I don't see it as a big deal.

Also, lots of open racists voted for Obama. If you look at the polling and the interviews, it was much more about running conservative Democrats trying to get the votes of people who wanted to shake things up. That's what Obama promised, that's why Sanders would've won, by some measures, and it seems AOC is out there generating the same buzz.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

There’s no statistical difference in the chances of victory between men and women when running for political office. Lots of Republican politicians are women. I don’t see it as a big deal.

It's only a deal because the democratic party is willing to hold back all women just to prevent the success of one progressive woman.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Hillary and Kamala were awful candidates - they wouldn't have won if they were men or if it were the first coming of Christ. (I'm skeptical he ever arrived at all). The DNC is the blame for their failure. Hillary was out of touch. Kamala had too many issues to list.

All that aside, they would have presidented circles around Trump.

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago

Maybe because Hillary and Kamala were terrible candidates? Are you kidding me?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I will vote for AOC with pride. But I’m leery about running another woman right now.

...that we're talking about a progressive woman.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 5 days ago

Exactly zero people who voted for trump last election will vote for a non-white woman.

Country is fucked.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -3 points 5 days ago

A Democratic centrist literally polled at #1. It's in the headline.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -4 points 5 days ago

Needs a little Asterisk* next to centrist and a footnote

*still way further left than any Republican