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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Lack of education. My class spent all of 1 class on WW2. I know because I spent time learning on my own.

[–] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Which is quite literally by design. Our education system is so shit because it was literally designed to produce obedient workers. Once the oligarchs who created the system were gone, the new ones did not want to replace it since it benefited them. Thus why we have so many braindead idiots who believe everything they are told. Since that they were taught to believe that what they were told in school was always the truth. This is why colleges and universities have to spend time deprogramming students to have them be able to think critically and for themselves. That is also why people with degrees usually vote against conservative policies, because they are able to think for themselves properly. They see the world for what it is and want unjust systems to be replaced with just ones.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's a problem of education as well as isolation (purposeful or not). You can't know what you haven't been exposed to, nor can you easily argue against something that you're surrounded by (especially as a kid). That being said, there is absolutely no excuse for the older crowd to be like this, as they have heard something about the experiences of parents or grandparents who first hand knew what the fight was about. The Greatest Generation, and certainly many before them, would be shocked at what's been forgotten about authoritarianism, dictators, and nationalism.

[–] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I’d argue the modern isolation is absolutely purposeful. Social media can be both a great tool to connect with people and one to isolate them. And with social media algorithms largely biasing towards hateful content since that keeps engagement high. Once a person is isolated they can be feed more hateful content without them even realizing how they are spiraling.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I agree, possibly starting with the Southern Strategy for our situation now, but even before that since influencing people to think certain ways isn't anything new.

[–] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago

Oh we have been trying to influence people to act or vote or do something a certain way for literally thousands of years. Roman society broke down because of how divided things became at certain points.

[–] Franklin@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The fucking car industry has also done wonders to isolate the populace

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My high school classes spent a lot more time than that on WWII, but most definitely did not cover Hitler's tariff policy.

[–] JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

I believe that, but it's important to remember that there's very little consistency in schooling. There's a wide range of quality in public schools even within my state. Before you even mention private schools with their own agendas

[–] Salamanderwizard92@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

At a job I worked with like 15 other people. Only 2 people knew what the holocaust was. I was one of the two. Even older people didn't know.

[–] Photuris@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Salamanderwizard92@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

It really is shocking. I couldn't help but laugh. A tired worn down bordering on breaking laugh.

[–] dave@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 day ago

"but what is holocast? is it like chromcast that you cast tiktoks to tv?" <-- those 13 other people probably

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I gotta ask the ages there. I don't know how you miss Band of Brothers, Schindler's List, etc.

[–] Salamanderwizard92@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

It was a mix. Our oldest was 75, the owner. He knew what it was. I was 5th oldest at 31.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You spent 1 day on it? We had several weeks on it. This was early 00's though.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Saying your class spent one class on it is confusing then. IDK what that means.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Your school day (in high school) was not broken into several classes throughout the day?

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They were, but they were called periods. Saying 'class' would mean you have that all semester. Like taking algebra. I'd be surprised if there was a WW2 class that you took all semster. We had a US history class and had a big section on WW2.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Apparently you've never been late to class, but late to period. Honestly I don't think the problem is on my end.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, I'm still unsure of what length of time y'all studied WW2. Did you have it for an entire semester?

[–] RavingGrob@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When they were clarifying "Not one day, one class" they were saying "We didn't even spend an entire day on it, just one section of a day"

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

That's what I meant by my "1 day" comment. Though, I guess that was ambiguous since y'all didnt know how my school day was split up.

And that is not enough time to cover any big part of history.