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Includes lore like how a instance got it's name, how an instance got defederated, how an admin got doxxed, fedihistory etc

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feddit.uk has been defederated from lemmy.blahaj.zone (lemm.ee)

submitted 3 days ago by Irelephant@lemm.ee to c/fediverselore@lemmy.ca

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/25042034

This post is "FYI only" for blahaj lemmy members. It is not a debate, and is not intended for non blahaj lemmy users to weigh in and offer opinions.

I recently received reports of a feddit.uk user espousing transphobia. Specifically, this was a feddit.uk user refusing to use the word cis, repeating the "adult human female" dog whistle, and claiming that trans women are not women. I approached a member of the feddit.uk admin team and raised my concerns and sought clarification of their stance on posts like this, where the transphobia is mostly dogwhistles, and "civil disagreement" on the validity of trans folk.

I was told by the feddit.uk admin that their preferred response is this kind of transphobia is to "sort it out through discussion and voting". However, the comments in question are currently more upvoted than downvoted, and little "sorting out" has occurred. The posts remain in place.

At this point, the admin stopped responding to my messages despite being active elsewhere on lemmy. When it became clear they were ignoring my messages and had no intention of removing the posts in question, I made the decision to defederate the instance.

I know some folk agree with the feddit.uk admins approach of pushback through discussion and voting, but this instance is not designed to be that kind of space. Blahaj lemmy is meant to be a place where we can avoid the rampant transphobia universally visible on nearly every other social media platform, and where we can exist without needing to debate our right to do so.

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[+] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee -7 points 2 days ago

It moreso covers how many of you will take things out of context. I can't even say a Chuck Norris joke without someone claiming Chuck Norris is a Nazi simply for not agreeing with the local masses. My position is that, when it comes to what someone is going for, the mind behind an act or gesture matters, not the minds observing an act or gesture. Before the autism registry in America seems to have been cancelled (let's hope this is true), I have recently gone on record as saying RFK has been acting very Nazi-esque, so I am definitely against Nazism and I am definitely not against bringing them or their atrocities up. However, there comes a point where making the accusation is premature. You could say I deconstruct it into two categories, "de jure" (as in, the person identifies as a Nazi, think Kanye West's rants) and "de facto" (the person inherits the philosophical traits of Nazis), and so someone saying "that person is a Republican, thus they're a Nazi" is not something I understand. I do not violate any TOS by trying to elaborate my approach.

For both of the things you allude to, I could take a few approaches when trying to verify myself. I could go by Snopes. I could repeat what the encyclopedias say. I could consult an AI. I could consult a Q&A service. And I could also check something akin to Ground News. I have done all of these. Most of the time, if they agreed with the person I'm arguing with, they'd be quoted. Here, they're not. I'm the one quoting them in these matters. I dedicate myself to trying to steer clear of falsehoods, and here I am, at odds with a majority who have suddenly abandoned these in a way that, to some, might resemble appeal to the masses based on convenience. As for the other matters about me you linked to, they are misconstrued in other ways, such as the part where it claims I chatted with someone in a place I couldn't have because I was banned from there at the time, and this too brings into question your claim about discussion being the best modus operandi for dealing with claims. Not because it's not true, but because here you are showing how powerless it is. I had just about forgotten there ever was an issue until, out of nowhere, people like you just randomly decided to bring my name up here. I am not a populist. Deal with it.