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[–] TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org 15 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

He should come to Germany and do that here and then we can hear from him from prison for the next 12 months and he will be banned from performing here for the next decade.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 12 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

But JD Vance says you dont have freedom of speech.

[–] possum@lemmy.world 16 points 3 hours ago

The freedom is there, the consequences too!

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Compared to the US, they don't. 1A protections are extremely broad, to be outside protected speech it practically has to be either CSAM or inciting immediate lawless action.

As in "SLUR should be hanged from trees" is protected under 1A, "Guys, grab that SLUR over there and string him up" is not. CSAM is primarily illegal because production, distribution and even possession further harms the victim of the CSA performed to create it.

[–] Zacpod@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yup, between that and the lack of gun control is no wonder the US is the way it is. On paper, that level of freedom is lovely. In practice it just lets the worst people be violent assholes with zero consequences.

I'll take the German/Canadian/NZ approach every day!

[–] TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

We got freedom of speech. But when it harms people, it isn't just speech anymore. Cause violence against innocents and you pay the consequences.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

I get it.

but the "Free Speech Absolutism" that Vance is talking about, demands the right to call you a N****R without consequences. Or say that you need to be killed because X Y Z.