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[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

2024 was the second highest turnout of any election on record. This isn't the fault of non voters.

Democrats should have been begging voters to turn out, offering to give them anything they wanted to avoid Trump. Instead they actively refused the one thing voters were demanding while using trump almost like a threat

I'm so tired of this 'democrats can't fail, only be failed' apologia from liberals. As things continue getting worse it will only become harder for democrats to win anything, especially if they continue refusing what voters are asking for while blaming them for the fascism dems are collaborating with.

Better get your boots laced because sitting on your ass and whining about non-voters won't protect you, we're all in this shit now because democrats couldn't get themselves to challenge Israel's genocide

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The Democratic Party doesn't give a fuck about America turning into a fascist nightmare. Never have, never will. Most of them would be happy to play puppet opposition if it meant that the checks would keep coming.

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Try convincing someone like rhoeri of that.

They'd rather deflate the popular anti-wealth momentum within their own party just so they can deflect attention away from inequality, and thats why they'll continue losing. You and I know that, but people like the above will continue placing blame on voters who are increasingly frustrated instead.

That's how libs end up collaborating with fascism - they're too invested in the existing and failing capital structure

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

rhoeri

I wonder how rhoeri's campaign to pass electoral reform in their state is going? Surely someone couldn't be that upset with 3rd party voters and not be driven to fix the voting system that is the source of the spoiler effect.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 0 points 1 day ago

There's none so deaf as those who are really deaf

I don't know if it's a legacy of organized religion or a devolution into tribalism, but they seem to see "vote blue no matter what" as the biggest part of their identity.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I’d rather put the blame where it lies.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 20 hours ago

Oh hey rhoeri. Lol I scroll down and you're right here! Perfect I was wondering how the electoral reform campaign in your state is going?

You do want to fix the source of the spoiler effect you are so very concerned with right? Imagine all the time you could save not having to make a thousand comments demanding people to vote for your preferred candidate.

I bet you're really close to getting it passed. Looking forward to seeing it in the news friend.

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Like Musk blaming Tesla's poor performance on people boycotting his fascist behavior.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No, it’s like a voter blaming ninety million non-voters for not voting for a man who told them this would all happen.

Let’s not resort to analogies here. It is exactly what it is.

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 1 day ago

ninety million non-voters

Better start blaming them for chattel slavery too, then.

[–] 7toed@midwest.social -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Okay non voters, should we go lynch them or something? Come the fuck on

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I’m sorry, am I not allowed to be angry that the assholes that helped cause this stand among us pretending to be victims of their own action??

[–] 7toed@midwest.social 4 points 1 day ago

To reiterate, I voted, people voted for trump too you know. If we had a perfect election system to begin with there would not be a non voting demographic, now as much as i would too like to live in that reality, that isnt this one. If im going to somehow find more contempt to millions of americans rather than the few up top, right now, I'd be a sad sack of shit.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Yes! You should be angry at the DNC for their shit platform.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So glad we have non voters to tell us how bad things could have been!