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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Actually it is that thought out and insidious

https://www.npr.org/2017/11/03/561976645/clinton-campaign-had-additional-signed-agreement-with-dnc-in-2015

And people being ignorant of this truth do equal damage as the Republicans who are loyal to their opressors.

The DNC is a privately controlled organization that has the goal of being the only option left of fascism.

And playing devils advocate out of ignorance is worse than doing nothing.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Shaking my head for why I try to engage with you in good faith. Now I'm reminded why I down vote you more often than not. Falling back on strawman BS like that. Brain rotted conspiracy theory logic. I've never disputed that any of that happened. But it's not largely relevant and more either. And in the end the dissolution of national parties is the only thing that will fix it.

Though it is Rich to see a conspiracy theorist still trying to litigate symptomatic events from over a decade ago. Claiming them to be causal without even providing any actual viable evidence or links. While calling everyone else ignorant.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 0 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Dude point out a single thing i said that was not true

Blatantly observable reality is not a conspiracy lmao

You wana talk about fallacies?

You're deflecting.

Btw strawman doesn't apply to real things like private political organizations.

The DNC has the right to conduct their elections however they want, they don't even have to hold elections, this is not how a party that values democracy would function.

https://observer.com/2017/08/court-admits-dnc-and-debbie-wasserman-schulz-rigged-primaries-against-sanders/

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Less not true then just not relevant to anything today. Listen I'm not the one that's trying to portray Hillary Clinton or the clintons in general as Shadow puppeting the whole National Democratic party a decade on after her disgraced final run for office. That's you. And if you only get just a little bit further out there. Next thing we know you'll be making claims at her harvesting children's adrenochrome in a pizza parlor basement to control politics for the next century.

Show me anything recently related to that. It's very telling that that's where you choose to go. Not actual recent events or information to back that up. You have to go back to that. If I didn't actually understand burning and believe in him. It would almost make me embarrassed to have voted for him simply to be associated with people like yourself.

Do conspiracies happen? Absolutely. But they're generally not very long lived. Nor do they tend to involve very many people. For obvious reasons. But they are almost always used to justify sweeping bad claims and logic. When there are often much simpler straightforward reasons for everything. You are literally accusing Hillary Clinton of still having control of the Democratic Party? The woman who was beaten by Obama and trump. And who is no longer active or relevant. Tell me that doesn't seem a little crazy.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

You want me to show you infomration about "harvesting children's adrenochrome in a pizza parlor basement to control politics for the next century."?

Lol jk

If you want a more recent example, in 2024 they had nobody to run against Biden who would also be 100% under their control so they decided to not even have a primary last year and try to run him again.

The DNC has a long history of controlling their primaries such that their preferred canidate will get the most votes. The thing that made 2016 significant is they almost fucked up. The last primary they allowed non-Neoliberals to run they almost lost control of the party to progressives.

You are literally accusing Hillary Clinton of still having control of the Democratic Party?

Not what i said at all. Hillary failed so the DNC cast her aside as a failed canidate that they had wasted too much time to groom.

I think the same group of people have been leadership or controlled the leadership of the DNC for decades, and they are rejecting progressivism to defend against new people ursurping them.