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Tenth bus of migrants from Texas arrives in LA
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The three elements to look for in an HT case (by Texas Penal Code) are Force, Fraud or Coercion. Abbott is lying to them to get them onto busses (fraud). He's also using the presence of law enforcement in guiding them to busses (coercion). He then profits by the positive publicity he receives for these actions.
Incidentally, according to the victims' interviews, they are being told that "this is the process". They are not being sold on a bus trip to California, they are being told "get on the bus, this is how we do things" and are usually not even told their destination. Their familes are waiting for them in places other than California. They would never agree to this.
Abbott may never be charged, but he is violating both Texas and U.S. law (which is extremely similar for HT cases) in doing this. No one in TX can arrest or charge the governor, obviously. So, it's up to the DOJ to do something. Since Garland is a conservative and Biden is too nice to demand action, this harmful conservative behavior will continue.
Conservatism is a plague of oppression in dire need of a cure.
No, even if everything you said was true - and I'm not sure it is - Abbott is protected against criminal prosecution for actions he takes as governor in his official capacity, outside of some specific exceptions like corruption. Since it's Texas state policy to charter buses and transport migrants elsewhere, what he is doing doesn't fall under the DoJ's purview.
If anyone were to try to stop this using the courts, it would have to be California. They'd have to sue in federal court to get an injection against Texas continuing to send them migrants. I'm not sure what law they'd use or if there even was one, but they're the injured party and would be the only party with standing.
It would be a political non-starter for any California Governor to indicate the immigrants are unwelcome.
Sue for costs, maybe? But we (California) keep describing migrants as net positives to our economy, so it would undercut messaging.
I don't think California could sue for costs, only sue to stop a policy which affects them. Sovereign immunity, I think would cover this