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[โ€“] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The horseshoe theory is bullshit to discredit anti establishement leftists.

The idea of radical leftism is that the capitalist system needs and breeds inequality and the state is its assistant. There is no overlap of fascism and leftism. There is a lot of overlap between fascism and capitalism though.

Dont believe stuff like this. It has been disproven many times.

Radical leftism means in essence:

  • everyone is the same
  • everyone deserves the same satisfaction of their needs
  • a roof over your head, food and drink are inalienable rights

The only thing i would warn of is that just because someone says they are leftist, socialist, communist, anarchist, etc doesnt mean they really are. Examples: national socialists and anarcho capitalists. They're both just using the term and perverting the idea. Then there are radical leftist parties that are lost (like russia apologists).

Of course you need to make an informed decision but yes, radical left all the way.

[โ€“] klao@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Radical leftism means in essence:

  • everyone is the same
  • everyone deserves the same satisfaction of their needs
  • a roof over your head, food and drink are inalienable rights.

Any progressive leftist would agree with those things hence why I'd be all for them and as you said there are exceptions in radical left where they shouldn't be taken seriously

[โ€“] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Exactly. Its just important to understand that horseshoe is not a viable concept. Use specifics instead. No Gos are:

  • russia apologism
  • israel apologism
  • science denial/esotherics
  • selective exclusion from basic rights

One very helpful concept is the tolerance paradox. It states that tolerant treatment of intolerant parties will lead to them dismantling of the tolerant system.

[โ€“] klao@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)
  • science denial/esotherics
  • selective exclusion from basic rights

No true progressive leftist would be in for either of the two, but in regards to the other two it can become tricky to know

One very helpful concept is the tolerance paradox

Or simply ignore the gaslightning that tolerance is a paradox and take it as a social contract where both ends must comply, if one won't then you shouldn't take for granted the other should

[โ€“] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Fair point. Its crazy that we have to mention this at all.