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German court sends Volkswagen execs to prison over Dieselgate scandal (www.occrp.org)
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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 77 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Before anyone becomes too happy: the post’s title is inaccurate, the two people sent to jail are only middle managers:

[–] colourlessidea@sopuli.xyz 29 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What’s Volkswagen’s org structure like? I wouldn’t normally expect a department head to be middle management.

[–] paranoia@feddit.dk 18 points 2 days ago

I mean the diesel engine department would probably be quite big for a company like Volkswagen. Each engine type has a team of engineers and a manager.

[–] Enfors@lemm.ee 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I.... I thought a middle manager is any manager who's not the very lowest manager, and not the CEO? As in, any manager who has managers above and below them?

[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I thought middle management was the guy in between the crew and upper management?

Absolute shit stressful job, btw. Never doing that shit again. If you have a heart, that job will kill it.

[–] colourlessidea@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 days ago

Good question - I also don’t know how clear those definitions are. In my head all managers that are under department heads would be middle, and department heads + C-suite would be upper/senior management. And the subset of upper management that is C-level is, well, C-level.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Think of them more like division heads. Not quite a regular middle manager, but not C-suite.

[–] 8000gnat@reddthat.com 8 points 2 days ago

deleted my happy post bc of this