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EU is planning a new mass surveillance law that includes mandating data retention, built-in backdoors, sanctioning non-compliant services and is asking you for feedback: Impact assessment on retention (ec.europa.eu)
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[โ€“] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

not all โ€œright wingersโ€ are fascists

i never claimed this. a big portion of right wingers are fascists nowadays, at least in my country. though "regular" right wingers are there in the form of centrists and liberals, you strike me as someone in this group.

Socialist regimes are inherently fond of surveillance

socialist "regimes" are not inherently fond of surveillance. you are probably thinking of china specifically. none of the other currently socialist countries do the same.

Thereโ€™s a lot of nuance inbetween โ€œcapitalistโ€ and โ€œanti-capitalistโ€.

again, i never claimed otherwise. but you are either in the "capitalist" spectrum, or the "anti-capitalist" spectrum. you seem to be projecting this rigid black and white viewpoint onto me.

very few results

we don't have the entire state apparatus in our favor, nor the means to directly counter the abundant and persistent anticommunist propaganda spewed by capitalist states.

ill remind you, though, that more than half the world's population is living under socialism. successfully at that. maybe you guys should give it a fair try before dismissing it as ineffective.

[โ€“] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 0 points 4 days ago

I definitely disagree we're seeing as terrible rise of fascist ideology; oligarchs controlling the flow of information on the internet is the biggest threat towards human existence.

I wouldn't even say I'm a regular right-winger, or any kind of wing really, I mainly simply don't believe in the effectiveness of extremes.

What nations would you consider "properly" socialist? Isn't a prerequisite for achieving acommunist society a period of socialist government preparing the people's spirits? Also, even 'socialism" is a spectrum; if any government with progressive taxes is "socialist" then yes, you have plenty of states you can include. Mind you, I'm from Scandinavia - a region often mentioned as an example of socialist policies - but the system is fundamentally capitalist for better and worse.

Sorry if I'm projecting a bit too much onto you! I don't like capitalism, but I don't find it realistic or achieveable to rid yourself of it in a meaningful way; history has shown that a new upper class emerges once the heads of the former have been cut off. Power. It's human nature and it always will be. The best bet is to compromise and pressure capitalist systems as much as possible. Which camp am in?

I don't know who "you guys" are; I'm not American at least. I have a more specific definition of "socialism" than just living under a system that taxes the rich and has a degree of national control over the means of production