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[–] thedarkfly@feddit.nl 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

My views on spelling changed dramatically over time. I am able to spell very well (in French) so I used it for moral superiority.

Then I learned and realized that the French opaque, obtuse spelling system has been openly and admittedly designed for social elitism and discrimination. It's less about intellect and more about education, i.e., privileges and social class. Mastery of a dumb, nonsensical spelling system is no intellectual feat, it's a circus act.

English orthography is also dumb and nonsensical, but I guess this is due to the hybrid nature of the language and the lack of an Academy. But it's also used by elitists for moral superiority, which I find hilarious.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

the French opaque, obtuse spelling system has been openly and admittedly designed for social elitism and discrimination

I find that difficult to believe, would you happen to remember where you read this? I'm curious to know more about that.

[–] thedarkfly@feddit.nl 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Sure! Here's a nice article by Mireille Elchacar, lexicologist and professor at TELUQ university.

The relevant portion:

Le 8 mai 1673, l’Académie française tranche en faveur de l’orthographe savante « qui distingue les gens de Lettres d’avec les Ignorants et les simples femmes ».

My translation:

The 8 of May, 1673, the French Academy decides in favor of a scholarly orthography "which distinguishes literary people from the ignorants and simple women".

Yikes! That's the basis of the "etymologic" or rather pseudo-etymologic orthography of French. The French Academy is still the authority for the French language, a remnant of the Ancient Régime. To my knowledge, they haven't retracted this statement since and to my judgement they still adhere to it by their actions and decisions today.