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I don't get Maoists at all (lemmygrad.ml)

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Like, let's say that hypothetically China is not socialist. Why do they feel the need to equate it to the USA or to constantly diss it? Literally, no other country has 800 military bases abroad, and no other country will vulture the resources away from a fallen China like the USA would. So, being a Maoist to me just is helping the USA Intelligence departments. Literally, NATO and Western Imperialism are the main enemies, I don't get why some groups wouldn't want to take China as an ally. Even if they were ultra capitalist like the Maoist say, if the West falls is not like China would even be able to become the USA 2.0. They make up a dystopian future based on lies and fears and then equate that fake future to our current world, and end up equating an evil empire to a country that just wants to give the rest of the world another option.

Maoists feel like an "us vs the world" exclusive club to me

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[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

and will let their own people be used as cheap disposable labor 48+ hours a week making US toys.

This hasn't been happening for years, it's come to a point where factories have trouble finding workers and have to offer more and more incentives, and most people pick it up as a summer job to save some money. Of course, development is unequal and this is true across generations too; there are people in China who have been factory workers all of their adult life (and maybe even their teenage life), but this is rarely the case with the newer generations.

Retirement age for them is something like 55 for women and 58 for men.

In general it's safe to say China plays the long game. It's not unique to the CPC; even imperial dynasties planned ahead like that. Deng, Xi etc plan ahead for centuries after their death. We can see that with Hong Kong for example, the lease was 100 years. After 100 years (and the fall of the original government that signed the lease) , China came knocking and said time's up, give it back now. They understand that there are short(ish) terms sacrifices to make for long term prosperity.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 days ago

In general it’s safe to say China plays the long game.

I remember the astonished vibes of articles coming out in Polish press for 2008 Olyimpic in Beijing, they were absolutely unable to believe a country can plan 30 years ahead and deliver. Sinophobic ones then shat bricks in fear. Truly a Napoleon quote moment.