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[–] RustyNova@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (5 children)

NGL I'd use jetbrainz products more if they weren't that pricey and more portable

[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Most of their IDEs you can use for free for non-commercial purposes and even if you need to buy them; when you compare software development to any other profession our tools are incredibly cheap. You can get all the Jetbrains IDEs for less than 300€. Compare that to a HDL simulator or a 3D CAD application like Autodesk. These easily cost several thousand euros each year.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You mean subscribe to them right? You can't buy Jetbrains products to use in perpetuity. I pay for their all products pack. They have a 40% continuity discount after two years, which is nice. I would agree they aren't terribly expensive for commercial software, but they are competing in a space full of free and/or open source alternatives, unlike many production-level commercial softwares.

That being said, their AI integration features are awful across the board, whether it's their own AI or copilot.

And while I much prefer jetbrains stuff to something like vscode, it's way more about UI uniformity for me. VS Code extensions outside the top 20 tend to slap themselves wherever they want, with html/css dialogues that don't fit the UI, and there's often like 6 versions of an extension that's like "this one is deprecated, but also the other one is deprecated, but the new one is made by microsoft but it's actually 3 extensions now." Whereas generally jetbrains extensions fit within my action panel, toolbar items, and can move widgets to different sides of the UI so that version control stuff, code analysis/structure stuff, external integration/database stuff, and project trees all get their own dedicated part of the workspace

[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can just buy them for one year and keep using the perpetual fallback license. Also, they can fuck right off with their planet incinerating automatic plagiarism chat bots.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

That’s pretty awesome, I didn’t know they had that. Seems like the sort of thing that should be like an EU enforced license structure. If anything it would make Adobe pucker their buttholes considering their asinine and predatory pricing strategy.

[–] RustyNova@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

True. Doesn't solve the other issue tho. Heck, I work on rust a lot, and rustrover is free

[–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Arent they like $100/yr a pop? Thats less than what adobe charges for photoshop.

[–] CodingCarpenter@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And they get cheaper the longer you hold the license

[–] rikudou 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I pay like $300 or something like that yearly for a pack of all their tools. And if I ever decide to stop, I get to keep the version that was released when I paid forever.

That's extremely good pricing.

[–] glorptex@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Yes, if you use some of them, if you use more of them they become more expensive so the toolbox is a good idea. Still expensive, but usually if you need this you either are a power user or you make money on what you are doing.

[–] dadabean@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Same. I use VSCode at work, because we need some of the features that are premium in Jetbrains products and the licenses are too expensive for my company.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If your work can’t afford less than $20/seat/month for business-critical software, I’d start looking for a new job because your paychecks are about to dry up, anyway.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is it business critical if it can be done elsewhere for cheaper/free?

[–] dadabean@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's the reasoning they have. It works with VSCode. Ish.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

Funny how such companies don't care that employees would be more effective with better tools and those license prices would result in way over $20/month profit. 🤷‍♂️

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tell your boss that it's even more expensive to have your foot up his ass. And tell it like Red Foreman

[–] dadabean@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

I like the approach

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Core development tools licenses are too expensive? That's an odd company or from a very low standard country?

[–] dadabean@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago
[–] linchiao@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

They run out of memory (JetBrainlet)

[–] linchiao@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago

Oh sorry, I made a mistake. It's named "JetBraian"