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[–] NewDark 14 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Firstly, Israeli society writ large is incredibly fascist and generally on board with this shit.

Second, they aren't idiots, just demons, especially the US. Most western powers are basically vassals to the US empire and any individual country trying to break from our adenda will pay dearly.

Thankfully, we're doing a wonderful job isolating ourselves lately, so it's possible more worldwide resistance will flourish. It will cost a lot of people's lives and livelihoods in the death throes of empire though.

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 5 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

According to polling a majority of Israelis rejects the Netanyahu government.

[–] NewDark 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Half are in favor of killing all the Gazan Palestinians and something like 80-90% are down with fully ethnically cleansing Gaza (source haaretz). I could also drag out the poll from about a year ago where the vast majority of Israelis agreed that the force used in Gaza was "just right" or "not enough".

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee -2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Not disputing the numbers but can you name a source?

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 12 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

But not the genocide. They just don't like Hamas hitting back

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee -1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe idk. Don’t want to defend Israel, just the notion that everyone there is on board with what’s happening.

[–] rumimevlevi 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I will wait for massive protests against netenyaho specifically about the war on iran to believe it

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

There have been so many huge protests against Netanyahu dude.

[–] rumimevlevi 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Read again i said specifically against the terrorist attacks on iran

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Well on Iran you’re probably not wrong, I don’t think many Israelis feel sympathetic towards a regime that has vowed to destroy them by 2040.

[–] rumimevlevi 0 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

They voted for him and his party 6 time.

I don’t think many Israelis feel sympathetic towards a regime that has vowed to destroy them by 2040.

You just repeating Israel propaganda which was also used to justify the genocide in Gaza. Aren't Zionist always saying Hamas want to kill every single jews so we have to keep occupying palestine?

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Iran's rulers (you could also chose the word oppressors) have pledged to destroy Israel for more than four decades now. That is simply a fact.

See, for example: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/01/world/middleeast/iran-israel-hamas.html

Also the role their allies Hamas play in it. You’re doing the classic knee-jerk reaction of "Israel is bad, therefore Hamas and Iran must be good" which is, of course, really really stupid. I agree that Israel is bad, by the way, but your argument is bs nonetheless and historically uninformed.

[–] rumimevlevi -1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Your opinion based article do not prove nothing. Fact on the group is that Israel is committing a genocide and are slowly trying to impose sovereignty on whole Palestine without of course giving citizenship to all Palestinian because it will make Israel no longer a Jewish supremacist state.

Israel prove again and again that they don't care about killing civilians under the pretext of security . You don't care about Iranian you only care about the terrorist state occupying Palestine for 57 years . I do not defend Iran regime, Iranians should end the regime by themselves if they want and do not deserve to be killed by the terrorist state of israel

You really think you smart and think you can fool people into thinking you are unbiased.

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah, Israel is committing a genocide and Iran has pledged to destroy Israel for decades now. These things can both be true. If you aren’t interested in historic facts then we have no ground for a discussion.

[–] rumimevlevi 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

I know the history of the usa backing the shah after organizing a coup and kept interfering with Iran internal affairs and then used israel as a proxy against them

Who is curently fighting the genocide and who help the liberation mouvement

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] rumimevlevi 0 points 14 hours ago

I get it. You claim to be against occupation but do not want people resisting it

[–] NewDark 2 points 13 hours ago

Also worth noting, they're against Netanyahu mostly just because he hasn't been prioritizing the hostages and rather going Hannibal directive instead.