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[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 191 points 1 day ago (7 children)

This is where we find out which faith is stronger, organized religion or the MAGA cult.

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 1 points 43 minutes ago

None of them have faith, religion has been used to prior up racist, sexist ideas for over a century in the US. They left faith long ago, it's just a tool for their hate.

[–] pwnicholson@lemmy.world 143 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The MAGA nuts are Christian nationalist protestants. They think the Pope is the antichrist (literally many of them do).

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mormons too, they’ve been screeching about Armageddon and the antichrist since we elected that black fellow

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Which is complete bullshit, a long standing tenant of the Mormon faith was to “follow the laws of the land” but once we started actually making some social progress they started forgetting that more and more and more.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 day ago

The whispered part of that is that members should run for office; that way they have the power to make laws conform to their ideology. I was surprised by the number of Mormons in Congress. They’re pretty over-represented for the population they represent.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, that tenet only came about after all the fraud in NY, being kicked out of multiple Midwest towns for being so obnoxious no one could stand them, landing in UT with the BY in BYU immediately building a house for himself and another for all his wives next door, and Uncle Sam threatening to take away their tax exemption if they don’t allow black people in…THEN eventually god changed his mind

It’s always been “follow the law of the land, unless god tells you different then go ahead but don’t tip off the feds”

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

There have been a few shows/movies recently that have kind of explored this time and place in US history, and it's some really interesting shit. Mormon militias and what not.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yet many Catholics voted in line with the MAGA nuts, purely on abortion. The American Catholic Church has turned abortion into its defining political litmus test. Hopefully this new Pope can convince American bishops that there are other issues worth their attention.

Besides, the folks who run the US right now always need an enemy. Once they run through the immigrants, and LGBT people, who's next? It's entirely possible these christofascists start ostracizing Catholics. They never liked them anyway, they just liked their votes, and they probably think they won't need votes anymore to keep in power.

My fucking parents voted for this asshole because of abortion. I yell at them about how many these fascists have already killed. Stopping aids aid from USAID alone is going to kill thousands (millions?).

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Western Christians haven't cared about their religion for at least a century, probably more. Bets on MAGA.

If you're following Maga you've long since started zany rationalization of your Christianity. Trump is an absolute caricature of the anti-christ incarnate. It's absolutely laughable. This will not break the hippocrates.

[–] SpongyAneurism@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How many Americans are catholics though? (And how many of those are hispanics anyways?)

It's easy to ignore the pope, when he's not even part of your denomination.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Please refer to this terribly colored pie chart for your answer.

It was more of a rhethorical question and I wanted to imply, that it's not a significant number. But data (even if it's somewhat poorly presented) is always appreciated.

I'm surprised to see that there are more catholics than I'd have guessed and one could argue that the pope is a religious icon whose word matters to many even if they're not part of his specific denomination.

But on the other hand, a lot of people who represent as catholics may have been raised catholic but we don't know how much of a role that plays in their life and their political views or how much they really follow religious authority. I was raised catholic myself and for loads of people who are part of that church, the word of the pope isn't really their law to live by.

And then there's also cognitive dissonance, that I imagine to play a big role with MAGA-hats.

All in all, I'd say the pope's influence is fairly limited there.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 4 points 18 hours ago

At least the chart is in legend order, I guess.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The Pope isn't the American Christian icon you'd think. JFK was Catholic and it was a big deal.

American Christianity is dozens and dozens of sects and styles and flavors. Overall they roughly disrespect and respect the Pope about the same, he's irrelevant really.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Modern American fascism has been claiming catholicism, see Vance. This is big for that reason. That and catholicism being the largest individual branch of Christianity in America

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 6 points 1 day ago

On the other hand, Biden is a Catholic too and that wasn't an election issue. And Trump probably couldn't tell you which denomination he pretends to be part of.

[–] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

They're only doing this for one day, and only for 3 hours. MAGA signed up for 8 years of their shit.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Well some of them pray to the old donny boy