264
Tesla’s phantom braking nightmare: lawsuits surge as drivers lose trust in Autopilot
(www.autoblog.com)
this post was submitted on 18 Jun 2025
264 points (99.6% liked)
News
30274 readers
4411 users here now
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Same experience with autopilot. How are you able to use the limited autopilot?! My single downclick on the right stick on my Model 3 takes me straight to full auto and the limited lane keeping and passing is greyed out for a year now.
I was excited to be part of the beta that was going to bring in a new era of safety with autopilot driving back when it was finally released. I stopped using it a couple years ago with the increasingly poor changes and more and more limits to options. With other manufacturers making superior autopilots and safer cars it seems pointless now.
Side note: I have always found it frustrating hearing the autopilot haters especially at the beginning (now with the bad updates I have to agree with them). They bought it expecting a fulling function system that would flawlessly get them from point A to B like Musk promised. It was a beta release for the first mass autopilot service. What were you expecting?? All these people crashing for the most part were letting the car drive. You had to treat it like a 10 year old kid was at the wheel and be EXTRA attentive to everything because you not only had to watch out for outside dangers but your car possibly wanting to take on oncoming traffic. The second autopilot chose to turn sharper or start to do anything I wouldn’t do I took over. The audio feedback they had added was a great idea too. Hearing why I took over is important to know where the defect in the system is. I’m sure they have text to speech then AI scan the data to look for enough common responses so they can focus on the bigger issues.
Elon really ruined such a great thing by going drug addled insane. My plate holders say “SORRY! Bought it before he went crazy”. I feel bad for all the engineers stuck working there who signed on excited to bring in the new era of driving. There’s still good people there which is why I’m not a huge Tesla hater necessarily but absolutely a Musk hater. I wouldn’t buy another Tesla, and the fall from innovations and safety offsets this but the one thing they did that I’m glad for is they forced other manufacturers to take EVs seriously as a mainstream option. They finally decided to dump money on the ”risky world of unknowns” that would open them up to possibly countless recalls and class action lawsuits for anything they took a chance on and got wrong. They’ve been scrambling to catch up ever since.
I dumped my Tesla stock a long time ago and suggest anyone still holding on to do the same. I feel with the more unhinged Elon becomes the more likely it is the board will replace him and his tie to brand identity will tank the stock the second it’s announced. They know this which is why they continue to hold on. Profits over everything, including safety as always.
Hey friend, mine is a gen 2 S, so the menus may vary, but when I'm in park, I can turn off the "full self driving" option. Then that lets me turn lane centering on and off. That will put you back to the one click for cruise, second click for lane keep.
I made a second driver profile, one with autopilot and one without. That lets me switch in and out quickly without needing to find a safe spot to stop the car. I hope that helps!