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Now 1 game can be over 150gb (lemmy.world)

submitted 5 days ago by MinguPingu@lemmy.world to c/bikinibottomtwitter@lemmy.world

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[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 51 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

But memory != storage so this meme doesn't work at all. If you have half a TB of ram and you're asking for change, I'll gut you like a pig and rehouse your tech to a more loving environment.

E: also, for the ps(2) the game ran off the disk (with very few exceptions, using a hard drive that isn't mentioned here), so you were only saving... save data. So another ding for meme logic.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

But memory != storage so this meme doesn't work at all.

This objectively isn't true. "Memory" isn't strictly random access memory (RAM) or even volatile memory in general. Secondary storage is nonvolatile memory.

I can't speak to the PS1, but the PS2 does have some unique exceptions to what you're saying. (Edit: to clarify, these are rare exceptions; I just thought this was a neat fact.) This doesn't really matter, though, because your comment is predicated on a misunderstanding of "memory".

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

But some rectangles are squares isn't really a gotcha. Everyone knew what they meant .

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Everyone knew what the OP meant by (correctly) saying "memory", but I don't see anyone but me criticizing the top comment for that. But to clarify, yes, their actual point about how the memory is used is valid; I pointed out the exceptions on the PS2 as a neat fact, not as a way to nullify their general point.

[–] donuts@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I can’t speak to the PS1, but the PS2 does have some unique exceptions to what you’re saying.

What does different memory cards for different purposes have to do with them saying memory cards (as shown in the picture) is only for save states?

I do think they are confusing bringing RAM into play, but in the context of the meme they are right to say that internal storage and memory card storage isn't used for the same purpose (installed games vs game saves)

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

A few points:

It's save data, not "save states". That's an emulator feature.
They're basically correct that you're only using memory cards for save data because the game itself is on a disc (point of pedantry: it's a "disc", not a "disk" unless you were using a HDD like they referred to). I was just pointing out a neat little fact that there were very rare cases when it wasn't actually just used for save data storage.

They're correct they aren't used for the same purpose. IIRC, a PS1 game would've been more akin to at most around 2 GiB for the ones that featured four discs.

[–] donuts@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You're entitled to your points but the pedantry is really unnecessary

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

They tried and failed to be a pedant about "memory" (you can't tell me everyone didn't know what the OP meant even if they hadn't been correct); I don't see why an attempt at keeping things factual is "really unnecessary". The meme itself is stupid as hell and has no nuance, but tbh that's par for the course for tech memes.

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Incorrect

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_memory

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

>"Incorrect"

>Links to the article that has a section summarizing the contents of this article

I don't know what you're a beacon of, but it isn't literacy.

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Read the freaking second sentence of the article. Quote:

The term memory is often synonymous with the terms RAM, main memory, or primary storage

[–] Cavemanfreak@programming.dev 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Since you have "primary storage" in your own quote, it seems you two are actually agreeing that OP is using memory correctly?

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 3 points 5 days ago

Nope, click on primary storage and you'll find that its another term for RAM