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US question: Would you approve of your state seceding from the Union, declaring independence from the United States? I think California, Oregon, and Washington would, and probably Colorado too. (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 1 day ago by Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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[–] CorruptCheesecake@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I just hope they automatically give former residents citizenship. I'm stranded out in the badlands for now.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If honestly be curious how that would work out. CA tends to know the value of immigration, and i couldn't really see them holding a policy of closed borders, at least not in the long run.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

Any American balkanization would likely go very similarly to the partition of India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh. The liberals would be given a period of permission to move to the coasts, and the conservatives to the red states, and in this process communities would shatter and a lot of people would die, but it's better than a civil war and/or white terror.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

You should have a US Passport and all your documents needed to get it on hand and in a fire safe.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

So, explicitly maintain the societal shadow-rung of illegal immigrants…? Can’t say I love continuing to underwrite that idea.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

A US Passport implies you were a US Citizen once

Personally I would respect all US citizens as Pacficians automatically unless you were an accessory to the Trump Admin or ICE (Whatever the fuck you did is Treason, you don't get to keep citizenship, you don't get to join our new cool country and if you try to stay, we will respond with capital punishment).

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I would partially base it on tax records, honestly.

And yes, I’m specifically trying to exclude billionaires who declare their residency in zero income tax states; they’re specifically trying to evade societal responsibility in the form of tax avoidance, so we should avoid making them a part of our society.

Clearly there’s more nuance to be implemented, but I think addressing wealth inequality very pointedly at a foundational level would be a GREAT idea.