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Seems like gaming piracy is really dying this time for sure. Most sites are compromised and untrustworthy, big teams are retiring, the one remaining denuvo cracker that i heard of is apparently psychotic... It doesn't seem like it bodes well
Isn't just piracy that's dying, in my opinion, it's gaming itself, or, at least, gaming as it used to be.
Besides Denuvo being a technology so bad that actually makes the original game worst than a copy without it, everyday comes with tons and tons of games with a pay-to-win approach or some kind of PBE. The only new, original and fun games nowadays are the indies, and it will be that way for a long time, as the industry seems to focus more and more in the mobile market since it's already bigger than the PC and console together.
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Gaming is definitely not dying it is a huge market. I don't agree with the direction it's heading though. But there are enough games released to keep my interest.
Because of it I said "gaming as it used to be."
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I think people are less excited for new games than it used to be.
I expect all games to be bad by default now and don't let myself get hyped up at all anymore. I waited on the edge of my seat since before the first teasers for CP2077 and still haven't bothered to play it. I backed Star Citizen in 2013 lol... Was disappointed by Fallout 4 and 76 too, as a huge Fallout fan. I don't remember the last game that legitimately lived up to my hopes and expectations. Fallout New Vegas I guess.
I loved Fallout 4…once there were enough mods to fix everything that's wrong with the vanilla game.
Which is par for the course with Bethesda. 🤷♂️
Yeah, I played it on release. Been trying it again lately with mods and it seems much more polished. The writing quality is still a pretty big disappointment, and the yes/yes/yes/no chat system.
Sadly, mods can and do remove the horrid dialog wheel thing, but they can't add more interesting dialog options.
For sure, indies are where it's at. Most of my time gaming has been on indies for many years now. They are actually willing to do interesting things instead of chasing trends and money.
Occasionally you get large studios doing things like Baldur's Gate 3, but it's rare. Larian and FromSoft are about the only studios I trust to make good experiences that aren't designed by the business team to make as much money as possible.
Sometimes , things have to go down to go up.Justo wait, its like a roller coaster.
Looking at the world rn, I dont think things have a tendency to get better on their own. In a decade or two people won't even believe we lived in the wild west era of internet where you could just get stuff for free without a subscription, online connection or drm.
When people run out of money to pay for a billion subscriptions, companies will have to think hard about their business model. I don't think the current trend can last forever.
Look at the fragmentation of streaming services. Piracy is on the rise again because of it.
That's why I said gaming piracy before, I don't think denuvo can protect media files (yet) and those are less likely to be malware or cryptominers anyway. So I think that aspect is safe for now at least, but rip gaming.
Sure on the rise maybe in this small circle but it has declined alot from its peak.
This is called a recency bias (I think lol) - you're looking at the world rn and assuming its trends must continue. When you look at history you see that there are ebbs and flows, and that stasis is rare. If you focus on certain things, you may certainly decide we're in a downtrend. There will always be an uptrend afterward. And vice versa
That's way too big of a generalization. The fact is that technology advances and makes other technology obsolete, and the pirates are dwindling while DRM companies are getting more and more money to fix the issue. It is not going to just magically reverse at one point. If anything the people are just going to get more accustomed to it like they have already with copyright laws, subscription services and simply not owning anything digital anymore.
The second thing you're not addressing is how long the "ebb and flow" takes anyway, if gaming piracy has a resurgence in 50 years then I don't think I'm gonna care much about it by then lol. Blizzard games aren't getting cracked anymore and by the time they do, if ever, I'm not going to care about them.
Are Blizzard games worth cracking any more?
Precisely the reason they'd be worth cracking I'd say. Anyway that was just an example, same goes for many EA / Ubi games for which it's just a matter of time before are perma-online or under denuvo.
Playing cracked games helps spread the popularity of said game.
Yeah, it happens on both sides, it's an arms race. It will swing the other way eventually - it always has and always will
That was intentional. There's no estimating a timeline, but with the development of technology it's not unreasonable to expect a reversal even in a decade. Anyway, if you're trying to ward off doomerism you're not going to do it by only looking at what you stand to gain
Plus Nintendo Switch has Denuvo too now, creating even bigger demand.
Nooo I can't live without piracy