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Two men behind ‘senseless’ felling of Sycamore Gap tree jailed for more than four years
(www.theguardian.com)
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4 years!
Of course it’s fucked up and whatever, but this feels like a populist sentence. 4 years is an incredibly long time. In what way is this adequate for the crime. Like mentioned before, there is infinite damage being done to nature in the name of business, very rarely somebody is getting a little bit of blowback, and these two guys, who really don’t have much potential to destroy anything more are sent away as an example? To whom? The generally misbehaving public?
What is the maximum sentence for damage of public property?
This was deliberate, planned, and done purely to destroy something others enjoyed.
I'd say it's about right.
Is building a housing estate on a green belt or a park not deliberate, planned, and done purely to destroy something others enjoyed?
Cool yeah, let's have short sentences for destroying cultural landmarks. I'm sure that'll be fine.
We both know that these men will, unfortunately, be out far sooner than 4 years time.
They shouldn't be inside at all. We don't have the prison space to spend on things like this. It should be dealt with in the community.
I.e. translating to no real punishment. For permanently destroying a historically significant site, then constantly lying in court.
I'm sure there would be zero repercussions from that.
Jesus Christ, I am immensely thankful you aren't a judge or legislator.
How, exactly, would one do that? Especially considering these men seem to have no community spirit whatsoever?
Get them in the stocks to be pelted by tomatoes by the community
Not quite what I was thinking, but better than 4 years a piece.
We already jail more than France, Germany, Austria, Spain, Italy, Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Finland. We're about 40% more than the nearest one of those which is France. Several of them we're 2-3x more per capita.
We put too many people in prison. We're not on American levels, but it's still too many.