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[–] rozlav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Heavy statement to say to someone that would lose its life job over dystopian machines, I have friends that are in this cartoon, one with a kiddo. What to say to them ?

[–] Tja@programming.dev 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Same we said to typesetters, switchboard operators, elevator drivers, milkmen, travel agents, video rental employees, lamplighters, computers (the job), horse farmers, coal miners, etc. You learn a new skill, you get a new job and carry on.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I sometimes sit in awe of the work of the milkmen of 3,000 years ago and imagine their lives and the things that must have inspired them to carry that milk.

Which milkman is your favorite?

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd say vote/rebel/protest for Universal Basic Income or any other form of economy where you aren't forced to work or die.

[–] f314@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

While I wholeheartedly agree that universal basic income should be a thing, I still think it’s deeply problematic that unthinking machines replace people specifically in fields of artistic expression.

While AI can produce pretty convincing images in many styles, the actual expression of experience, feelings and general humanity is gone. Even disregarding the hardship of the artists being replaced (or assuming UBI will be a satisfying solution for them), that loss in itself is a good enough reason to be skeptical.

The main reason for the existence of art is to share human experience, and to be able to experience the world from another perspective than your own. This is a hugely important role in society that is very easily overlooked, and one that is completely lost with naïve use of AI.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I'd say: It's your boss that fired you, not the tool.

[–] copygirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 months ago

You see, it's not the internet censorship tool that prevents you from speaking your mind, it's the people that control it!

You can dislike the tool.

AI was built on stolen work, and will not create a generation of future artists that simply has a new tool available. It'll create a generation of workers that create profit for the wealthy class by generating garbage until it's somewhat presentable. Meanwhile, AI will starve out because it will run out of data to learn from.

Generative AI is the current fad of the tech bro world and it's what everyone clings onto because if everything goes well (for them), they can get future generations hooked and make stupid money. Meanwhile, media literacy will further decline, and with it the ability to look up anything on the internet, making it even more easy for the masses to be controlled.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

under capitalist logic and current law, the company is legally required to maximize profit, at least if it's publicly traded. it's because the CEO has a responsibility to the shareholders, and shareholders typically demand maximization of profits.

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

"It wasn't the bullet that killed you, it was the gun." C'mon, dude. You're being obtuse.

[–] SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"It wasn't the gun that killed you, it was the person who pulled the trigger." C'mon, dude. You're being obtuse.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz -5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Hi there, NRA. Didn't know you did small-time socmed.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not everyone who supports gun rights are right-wing idiots.

Who was it again that said "Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary"?

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 0 points 2 months ago

You're right but the right wing idiots are the ones perpetuating that kind of obviously flawed argument and not one of the armed socialist flavors.

But sure, go off

[–] SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The point being made is you can't blame the tool for the operator's usage of it.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you're calling yourself a tool I'll concede the point.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago
[–] Mac@mander.xyz 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Watch me.

Guns have no use other than killing.

[–] SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Guns have no use other than killing.

Yes. That doesn't give them agency or sentience or anything though.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Wow, i had no idea. Thank you for educating me on this topic.
I now support giving the tools for killing to all the irrational and emotionally driven humans.

[–] SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Glad we agree the irrational and emotionally driven humans are the root problem!

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

More "it wasn't the gun, it was the one who pulled the trigger", which is a true statement. We don't blame guns for murder. We blame the murderer.

This is true, no one has ever thought of gun control before.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

What? It was the shooter. You know? The human that makes choices. Tools and objects can't be held accountable.