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[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Being trans, wait you said 50 years not 0.5? Haha lol we're so fucked

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't be silly. The concept of being trans is a relatively new thing, by historical timelines. Fuck me, older black grandparents lived "Whites only" signs. I've seen them.

F@g bashing was a legit sport when I was a teen. Jump dudes coming out of gay bars? Boys will be boys! And no one objected. What are you, a f@g?

Two steps forwards, one step back. Rinse and repeat.

And we ALL have to fight. Men had to fight to the death for labor rights, now they got a holiday, though we've forgotten what it was about.

Fighting might mean your personal extinction. Pick a fucking side, pick up a rifle, be there when you're needed and train. I train.

That pic of me is not a fucking uniform. It's not a "cool guy" pose. (But you gotta admit, it's a great pic!) It's actually ME, working to learn clothing and weather and arms and tool belts and ammo and whatever fucking works in the field. I strap on my AR and pistol, run and jump and sweat and shoot while shaking like a fucking leaf. It takes hard work and sweat. If anyone is on the fence about getting armed and trained, best time to plant a tree is now.

Gonna let the red hats have a monopoly on violence? Nah. Not me. As for me and my house, we serve John Browning (Gun nerd joke, apologies. TWO WORLD WARS!)

I should note; Had hell finding a pic of "liberal armed protestors". Pic I found, meh, those guys aren't looking too "practical", let alone "tactical". Didn't used to be hard to find such pics. Huh. Make of that what you will.

Final note if one wants to get strapped: PRACTICE IN ALL CONDITIONS. The slightest discomfort gets magnified 10x over a very short period of time when the going gets rough.

(Sorry OP, just venting.)

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The concept of being trans is a relatively new thing, by historical timelines.

The historical record for what we would now call transgender people goes back over 4,000 to Ancient Babylon. And that's just the written historical record.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, we just called trans folk hermaphrodites or transexuals or some other words than we use now. Language has been fluid but the concept is not new. Hell, I grew up familiar with it and I was pretty naive.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 12 hours ago

Hermaphrodites are a completely different thing. They are not trans, well I guess they could be but hermaphrodite is not what people used to call trans people.

Democracy was also an old concept. But democracy didn't get popularized until very recently.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ah fuck, I knew someone would be around to pick on that.

Trans rights in Western culture is a new thing we gotta fight for. Fuck me, gay rights is a relatively new thing we still gotta fight for. Didn't read my post? Were you not around when gay marriage was a sticking point? Like, 15-years ago? I know goddamned well the concept has existed since we were monkeys.

Your comment is a perfect example of why conservatives hate holier-than-thou liberals. Pick up a rifle or STFU.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry, but the attitudes you expressed have directly hurt the trans community in recent years. Hell, in the recent Skremetti case that saw the erosion of trans rights, even the liberal justices were completely ignorant about just how far back in time trans people go. The idea that trans people are a new phenomenon is directly harmful to our rights and safety.

Look, fine if you want to LARP as an armed defender of freedom. But ultimately you're just playing dress up. You may style yourself a defender of the rights of minorities, but you're giving advice that is only applicable to someone in your position. 2nd Amendment rights effectively do not exist for members of many minority groups. What you're allowed to get away with because you're a middle aged cis white guy will result in members of other groups getting immediately shot by police.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Say fucking what?! LGBT people have been a major gun purchasing demographic since Trump 1.0. Didn't get the memo? /r/liberalgunowners was flooded with gay and trans folks asking for advice on purchases and training and safety. That's anecdotal, feel free to find sources on your own. Such articles and stats are an all-you-can-eat buffet.

And yeah, I got privilege, shitloads of it. I know this, so do not fucking dare come at me like I'm sheltered! If I can use that privilege to support the less privileged I'll do so, with out without your permission. Two seconds after Florida legalizes open-carry, I will be at the protests with a slung AR and my .45 on my belt. Don't want to do it yourself? I'm 100% fine with that, would not ask that of anyone else. But if we're at the same event, expect the police to act as a polite peace-keeping force, because of me and people like me.

Yes, being armed in the face of opposition can certainly result in getting killed. They're going to kill LGBT folks as is. Guessing you weren't around for the onset of the AIDS epidemic? They purposefully let that shit run buck wild, did nothing, because it was a "gay disease". If you want to curl up in a ball for fear of your life, get on the trains and beat the rush.

Some of you people are so goddamned insufferable you turn away your own allies, the very people who would stand with you. Always looking for a fight, always looking for ideological purity. Well fuck you in particular, you will not turn me away from human rights.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Maybe edit the wording in the post to clarify that instead of writing this response.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

I can't edit my posts. Asked around and no one is sure why. Browser doesn't matter, it's my account!

[–] Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago

Nah we'll win

We got this, and we got eachother.