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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] MrVilliam@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yes, but also these are pretrial detainees, as in not yet convicted of any crime. Article 1 of the 13th amendment says "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction." (emphasis my own)

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

Yes, this is unconstitutional,and the constitutional kind is immoral.

I brought up convict leasing because charges were often made up or people were convicted of violations like not having a job. Essentially if you were black in the south you could be arrested and re-enslaved at any time. Not that far off from what we're witnessing here. Trials were a formality and the laws were unjust to begin with.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yep, they should have standing to sue for constitutional violations. It's slavery even by the standards laid out by the constitution.

Of course, that's assuming a judiciary that actually cares about the constitution.