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Left-wing extremists have been showing "substantial activity on Lemmygrad.ml" with an accompanying increase in toxicity, a new joint study published by Binghamton University and Cyprus University of Technology on Arxiv says.
The researchers also identified posts that support authoritarian regimes, endorse the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and feature anti-Zionist and antisemitic content.
"Overall, our findings contribute to a more nuanced understanding of political extremism within decentralized social networks and emphasize the necessity of analyzing both ends of the political spectrum in research," the researchers conclude.
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Users on Lemmygrad.ml frequently discuss [...] China and North Korea, with many posts expressing support for them.
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Discussions [on Lemmygrad.ml] on the Israel-Palestine conflict primarily criticize Israel. While many posts condemn antisemitism, [the authors] also encounter numerous posts that extend beyond criticizing Israel, displaying anti-Zionism and even antisemitism.
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[The study] results show that users of Lemmygrad.ml frequently share posts that support authoritarian regimes, as seen in their support for China, North Korea, and Russia. Moreover, their support can extend beyond backing these authoritarian regimes, even cheering on their violent actions, as evidenced by their posts on the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Additionally, we observe anti-Zionist and antisemitic behaviors, which show similarities to right-wing extremism.
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Our analysis suggests a concerning endorsement of authoritarian actions and extremist rhetoric on Lemmygrad.ml, further indicating that left-wing extremist communities on decentralized platforms should receive more attention from the academic community.
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I don't need to be a fucking tankie to recognize the Israeli genocide of the Palestinians.
The problem with the term Zionism is that it is extremely broad. It technically "just" describes believing that there should be some type of culturally Jewish dominated country. That can mean ethno state but it can also just mean religious holidays are bank hollidays, the same way Christmas is a holiday in many majority Christian countries.
Anti-Zionist as a term is therefore practically useless without a more detailed definition describing what kind of Zionism one means.
I assume their problem is mostly with the "Israelis are colonisers and therefore don't have any right to live anywhere near the region" line of argument. But then again they are from the UK, a country that criminalised Palastine Action, so who knows...
TLDR: you can be a Zionist and still be opposed to the current actions of the Israeli military.
What Zionism as an ideology means has been changing over the course of history. However the goal of a Jewish national state has been achieved in 1948. Everything beyond that had just been expanionism. And 1948 already came with a devastating ethnic cleansing and land annexation.
The study is disingenious in trying to legitimize Zionism, by presenting Anti-Zionism as an extremist idea, rather than acknowledging what it opposes today.
It really isn't that simple though, specifically because there is a cohort of anti Zionists who do want to dissolve the state of Israel. The entire issue is very specifically that the term is overloaded in both directions.
Certainly not. But Russia's genocide in Ukraine? China's genocide in Tibet and Xinjiang? Does one have to be a tankie to deny them?
I think those denials might be defining traits of a tankie, so...yes?
If those are the defining traits then why are they called Tankies and not something related to that?
The term tankies originally comes fro Qm the tianamean square massacre, in which the Chinese government ordered tanks to run over studenta who were protesting. People who denied that this ever happened were called tankies. Nowadays its more of a broad term who deny, that authoritarian regimes like China, North Korea or Russia di anything bad.
It's older.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie
Yeah youre right. I got the info mixed in my head (but to be fair, my version isn't that far off).
Seems like Trump declassified docs about it, and it has nothing to do with TS. https://www.joewrote.com/p/jfk-files-reveal-the-cia-role-in
OK, this doesn't say anything about the term tankie except the author's supposition, which doesn't align to the common understanding, so I don't think it's accurate. This is about the CIA using a "Nazi turned communist turned anti-communist" to fight the USSR. It's just modern tankies using anti-western propoganda to say "actually, it's the Fascists who are tankies!"
Look, the CIA is bad, and the US has done a lot of bad things. This argument is bullshit though. If you read the article you can see that. It has nothing to do with the word tankie except that the author brings up that the USSR sent tanks (as part of the army) in their direction. This isn't the origin of the word tanky almost certainly, and isn't used in any of the stuff referenced. You should read more critically.
I haven't seen anything with commies calling others tankies. Is tankie a term for a group of people or a slur to you?
Also seems like you didnt know that the term tankie comes from the said hungarian uprising mentioned here.
Again, there's no evidence for that. It's the author's supposition and nothing more. You're taking the hunch of one author, who says it's just a guess, as fact.
from the wikipedia page.
I may be misinterpreting what the author of the article you posted meant by this:
"Király’s newfound army fought bloody street battles against the pro-Soviet faction comprised of Hungarian troops, policemen, and civilians. Moscow sent Red Army troops and tanks (hence the name “tankie”) into Budapest and agreed to students’ demands to let Imre Nagy run the government."
To me, it sounds like he's trying to define the people standing up against the Red Army as tankies, rather than the people supporting them. Maybe he meant the well understood meaning of the supporters of the Red Army being tankies. The article to me reads like he's trying to redifine it to say "actually, tankies don't support authoritarian crackdowns on freedom." Again, I could be wrong, but that's what it seems like they're saying to me, which is the opposite of the well understood meaning.
Interesting. May look into it later. The thing I described was the stuff I heard.