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What's up with this straight up pro-china and pro-russia stuff on Lemmy lately? (toast.ooo)

submitted 1 month ago by individual@toast.ooo to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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What's up with this straight up pro-china and pro-russia stuff on Lemmy lately?

It's not even praising the people of China and Russia, but rather their gov directly.

Obviously the states have problems, and the EU to a lesser degree, but they at least have some human rights.

Is this some kind of organized disinformation campaign?

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[+] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml -11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The position of Germany on pro-Palestine activism is insufferable, that’s true, but the EU has 26 other members.

This is the recent one from the UK. It can be done for all 26 others easily too.

Also constantly bringing back colonialism as an argument doesn’t make much sense.

Because people in Africa and the Middle East aren't still being colonized by the West?

Anyway, do you want to compare it with China and Russia that notoriously love who manifest ideas contrary to the regime’s views?

Pray tell what happened to Jullian Assange? Why the entire Western media gleefully lying about the genocide in Gaza? Propaganda on Western levels is unheard of worldwide.

[+] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml -9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago

The US persecuted Assange, not the EU. The rest was pure politics, because no country would cause a diplomatic incident over Assange.

So the EU obeys the US which is authoritarian?

What are you talking about? There is a constant coverage on Gaza even with updates of the kids killed by Israel.

https://lemmy.ml/c/ManufacturingConsent

Pray tell if you believe Hamas raped anyone on October 7 by the way.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago

The West is guilty of regime changes in some places, that’s true,

Man, you sure love going "yes that's true and I have no counter point, but I'm going to declare that it doesn't count"

What are you talking about? There is a constant coverage on Gaza even with updates of the kids killed by Israel.

What do you believe the current death count in Gaza is?

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Only Germany has a stronger stance on Israel, probably due to the large presence of Jews in the country.

You are misinformed. There hasn't been a large Jewish population in Germany since the Holocaust, and attributing Germany's support for Israel to an imagined one sounds, frankly, a bit antisemitic.

There are many EU countries with more Jews per capita than Germany. Less than 0.2% of Germany's population is Jewish, and less than 1% of Jews in the world live in Germany. 60% of Jews in Germany live in a single city (Berlin). Over 80% speak Russian, having immigrated there from former soviet states.

German politicians often say that, due to the Holocaust, support for Israel's security is part of Germany's "reason of state"; they tend to avoid discussing the Zionist view that Jews choosing to live in Germany today should also really move to Israel.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The position of Germany on pro-Palestine activism is insufferable, that’s true, but the EU has 26 other members.

You know, the argument of "they aren't repressive, so long as you just ignore all the ways that they are!" applies just as much to China. You're purely begging the question. I like that you even got it wrong which fucking country it was.