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[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, is the US really the metric you want to use? If anyone is even slightly better, even fractionally, than the US it means they're doing fine? Seems like too low a bar to me.

[–] gigachad@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

As this arcticle is about the US administration condemning the human rights situation in the UK I think it is the metric that makes the most sense here.

Saying "yeah the US administration may be fascists and are conducting this assessment to push right extreme parties in Europe, but that doesn't matter because they are right" is a very dangerous position in my opinion.

Edit: Oh what a coincidence https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/13/world/europe/jd-vance-nigel-farage-reform-uk.html

it's not that it doesn't matter, and no one here holds that position. it's that "UK is fascist" is not any less true just because it's the fascist US that said it

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

No, one should not trust the US by default, but one also shouldn't dismiss the conclusion just because the US is one of the ones who came to it.