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Pragmatic Leftist Theory

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The neolibs are too far right. The tankies are doing whatever that is. Where's the space for the people who want fully-automated-luxury-gay-space-communism, but realize that it's gonna take a while and there are lots of steps between now and then? Here. This is that space.

Here, people should endeavor to discuss and devise practical, actionable leftist action. Vote lesser evil while you build grassroots coalitions. Unionize your workplace. Participate in SRAs. Build cohesion your local community. Educate the proletariat.

This is a place for practical people to develop practical plans to implement stable, incremental improvement.

If you're dead-set on drumming up all 18,453 True Leftists® into spontaneous Revolution, go somewhere else. The grown ups are talking.

Rules:

-1. Don't be a dick. Racism, sexism, other assorted bigotries, you know the drill. At least try to default to mutually respectful discussion. We're all on the same side here, unless you aren't, in which case kindly leave.

-2. Don't be a tankie. Yes I'm sure you have an extensive knowledge of century-old theory. There's been a century of history since then. Things didn't shake out as expected, maybe consider the possibility that a different angle of attack might be more effective in light of new data.

-3. Be practical. No one on the left benefits from counterproductive actions. This is a space informed by, not enslaved to, ideology. Promoting actions that are fundamentally untenable in the system in question, because they fulfill a sense of ideological purity, is a bad look. Don't do that.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml -1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

i like how you will not let go of the strawman that we are somehow campaigning for trump.

you should actually talk to leftists in good faith instead of this bullshit.

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

Whenever you guys stop regurgitating Trump/Putin talking points is when people will stop thinking you are campaigning for Trump. We can only judge you on your actions, and spreading right wing propaganda is what you guys do.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

i like how you will not let go of the strawman that we are somehow campaigning for trump.

"I didn't campaign for Trump, I just worked against the anti-fascist coalition candidate!"

When there are only two choices and you work against one, you are supporting the other. I'm sorry if that's too complex for you to parse.

I'm sure you would've insisted that all sides were bad in WW2, and thus sat with your thumb up your ass as the Nazis genocided Europe.

you should actually talk to leftists in good faith instead of this bullshit.

I talk to plenty of good-faith leftists. Tankie fucks like you, on the other hand, can go fuck yourselves.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml -1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

anti-fascist coalition candidate

WHAT???? which one????????

you mean the conservative fascist joe biden? the one funding concentration camps for immigrants before it was cool? or the one who massively ramped up genocide in gaza?

please come back to reality.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

WHICH ONE???

Harris. The only one with a chance at victory. The only one with an actual coalition instead of a handful of purity-testers jerking each other off about how wonderful it would be to ensure a fascist victory.

you mean the conservative fascist joe biden? the one funding concentration camps for immigrants before it was cool? or the one who massively ramped up genocide in gaza?

Lord.

[–] idiotocide@sh.itjust.works -5 points 18 hours ago

Harris was the VP under a genocidal administration you denialist cunt

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml -1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Harris.

you mean the actual cop openly saying they would keep up with the genocide? the one the party shoehorned in last minute? this your anti-fascist coalition? 🤡

you are not about to blame me for that clusterfuck are you?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world -4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

you mean the cop openly saying they would keep up with the genocide? omg this your anti-fascist coalition? 🤡

Astounding. Any amount of bad-faith bullshit to bootlick for Nazis. Anything to support Palestinian genocide, it would seem - genocided Palestinians make great 'martyrs' for you to jerk yourself off with.

you are not about to blame me for that clusterfuck are you?

what

[–] idiotocide@sh.itjust.works -1 points 18 hours ago

Here we go. Those damn Arabs always get bombed at the most inconvenient time, it's like they're doing it on purpose /s maybe they deserve it after all innit

[–] idiotocide@sh.itjust.works -3 points 18 hours ago

YOUR PARTY KILLED 50k PEOPLE YOU FUCKING SCUM HOW DARE YOU WEAPONISE THE SUFFERING OF THE PEOPLE YOUR COUNTRY BOMBED? PIECE OF SHIT

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

i'm still struggling to understand how hating you nazi apologists qualify as bootlicking them. or how being anti-genocide makes me support the genocide in any way.

here's you guys coming up with random bullshit again. is that strawman you are attacking soft and pliable enough for you?

feel free to cry more. i'm not arguing with someone who just want to dump their trauma onto someone else, have a nice day and please go back to reddit.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world -2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

i’m still struggling to understand how hating you nazi apologists qualify as bootlicking them. or how being anti-genocide makes me support the genocide in any way.

"I don't understand how acting against the less-genocidal of the two choices supports the more-genocidal of the two choices!"

Yes, that's about the towering intellect I expect from Nazi bootlickers like you.

Tell me more about how the Finns in the Continuation War actually weren't helping the Nazis at all.

feel free to cry more. i’m not arguing with someone who just want to dump their trauma one someone else, have a nice day.

Nazis and running away - name a more iconic duo.

Enjoy Argentina!