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What's up with this straight up pro-china and pro-russia stuff on Lemmy lately? (toast.ooo)

submitted 4 days ago by individual@toast.ooo to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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What's up with this straight up pro-china and pro-russia stuff on Lemmy lately?

It's not even praising the people of China and Russia, but rather their gov directly.

Obviously the states have problems, and the EU to a lesser degree, but they at least have some human rights.

Is this some kind of organized disinformation campaign?

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[–] procapra@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I appreciate your correction Davel. I've seen some of your posts/comments in the past and they have always been informative on this topic.

I understand western notions of prisons paint ugly pictures of grey walls and metal bars so if they are given that much autonomy during the process, maybe that term was misleading and I apologize.

I do take issue with the hypothetical terrorist rebuttal though, because the same thing can be applied to the US policies. Yes, we did have terrorist attacks done against us. That doesn't mean that every person we locked up as a terrorist was one.

You might have the trust that China is telling the truth and isn't doing something similar, that's a valid enough position to have. Im still not personally convinced.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, we did have terrorist attacks done against us. That doesn’t mean that every person we locked up as a terrorist was one.

I’m sure some mistakes were made because no system will ever be perfect, but socialist states are fundamentally different from a capitalist, imperialist, globally hegemonic state. Without evidence, there’s no reason to assume that China’s handling of it was analogous to ours.

[–] procapra@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have disagreements that China is currently socialist, but that is outside the scope of the original discussion.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most Western Marxists do disagree, as I also used to.

[–] procapra@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Are you suggesting that I read this work?