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When Americans Fly Economy, They're Actually Paying for Someone Else to Fly Private
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like everything in the 70s and 80s, airline deregulation was a stain that never should have happened
And nothing will be fixed while "the left" in the US still worship and lionize Carter, who started all the mess.
Yes, Trump is literally worse, but both parties are two sides of the same coin. You cannot save the country by electing neo-liberals, it'll always be further right than before.
Trumps in the process of nazi round two and your dumb ass is over here still throwing around both sides same
What the democrats are doing to oppose trump (basically fucking nothing) is the most damning evidence of all, in my opinion. They are controlled opposition.
maybe some, look at who had that lunch in Russia
I’m sure plenty are just old and corrupt(but not Trump directed), schumer doesnt give a ahit about the is long as Israel gets paid
it’s a class war first
The Democrats have proven over the last 50 years that they do not meaningfully oppose Republican values.
It's time you start engaging with reality with the rest of us.
So by your logic, had Harris won the last election we would still be watching the fall of the USA and the rise of a second Nazi wave?
By my logic, if Harris were elected, the vast majority of Americans would see no meaningful positive change. People would get sick of waiting for these policies that will never reach or help them by design, then they elect another Republican out of spite and apathy.
So just the same things that happened with every dem in the last 50 years.
No positive change is surely still significantly better than seeing a massive downturn and an uprising of a second Nazi regime... I don't get your point.
We're all gonna die eventually, so should we be advocating for more murderers?
So if the only parties available result in decline, when does a party come along that wants to progress instead of stagnate or regress?
Time to grow up as a society and pull this baindaid off that we have apathetically suffered for our entire lives
Sure, but we're not going to pull off the bandaid by continually voting in the party that is going to fuck us over fsstest. Is it not easier to work with a slow decline than a turbocharged rocket into the ground?
If Democrats made meaningful change at the expense of their rich owners, which is what is required for most problems to improve, then their apathy wouldn't provoke people to also be apathetic.
Sorry but that's how it works
This doesn't answer my question.
Do you think change will be easier to make when a party is in power that is slowly chipping away at your freedoms, or when a party is in place that is going to go full-tilt authoritarian and do as much damage in as little time as possible?
Verifiable reality says no.
Neither of the halfs of the Duopoly are interested in making the necessary changes to improve people's lives unless those people are rich.
Make it make sense... You are telling me that citizens would have the same quality of life right now and no more to fight for than they currently do under the current administration, had Harris have won? I find that incredibly difficult to believe.
If Harris won then it's 4 more years of no tangible positive change, then the electorate becomes frustrated and votes in the Republican fascist. Republicans win because Dems fail to improve things.
You are operating in this weird idyllic neolib space where you think a party is their policies, in the real world a party is what they can actually accomplish.
And you don't seem to realize that when everything exclusively gets worse, and never better, every year, then people are not going to care how worse it gets. They will instead detach from the broken system where everything only gets worse.
I would have preferred Kamala by a ton, voted for her. But I'm not deluding myself into thinking she would make anything better, because that requires forcing her doners to lose money, and she won't do that, no Democrat will.
Nah, it's just a modicum of critical thinking. "Would I rather have things stay the same, or maybe get slightly worse; or have things rocket to the bottom as fast as possible?"
To say the Democratic party is just as bad as the Republican party is so incredibly stupid. Like, look at the track record of the two and tell me that the dems have caused as much damage as the Republicans, or that on a global scale right-wing politics has brought about more positivity than left-wing politics.
I also don't see how it makes any sense to think "eh, things won't get better under any party, so I might as well vote for the worst. Surely this will bring about the changes I want!". Once again, we all die eventually so I guess we should just be aborting fetuses and staging mass suicide since I guess that's the same thing in the end and the path to get there seemingly doesn't matter.
I don't think Kamala would have made things better than they were, but I don't think anybody would. But I so think she would have made things significantly better than they are right now under Trump... But all those people trying to say "tHeYrE bOtH the SaMe" got what they wanted, and hopefully they're enjoying what they're getting. I certainly don't think they're anywhere near the same.
You're living in a fantasy world where people are educated and informed.
Well, creating posts and content that suggest both side is only going to throw more people into the uneducated/uninformed bucket.
Just supporting the rich Neoliberals, im sure one day they will throw the slaves a juicy bone.
The problem is the massive gap between the two. Once again, advocating murder and mass suicide because "we all die eventually"
I'd much sooner advocate just living as much of a full life as you can, and doing what can be done to fight back.
I’ll agree with the Dems by and large being useless but if you thing there is no difference you are blind
Democrats enabled him and did nothing in the gap between his first and second term to prevent him from executing the out in the open takeover plan. They did start genocide and lost the election because they ran campaign on "the most lethal military" instead of stopping the genocide, and your dumb ass still think the Democrats are you friends.
u huh
when they are dragging our asses to the camps better tell all our fellow prisoners so they can tell moral you are
I'm sure you're really worried about being dragged to camp. Meanwhile I actually have family in ICE detention, and I lay the blame on both the fascists in charge and the idiots who still insist we should have voted for a nonviable genocidal candidate running a platform of most lethal military.
you have family in ice detention and you are worrying about democrats atm?
you are either fake or hopeless either way just wtf
The Democrat started the genocide of my people and doubled down on it. They aren't my friends, and one day they'll come for you too.
My family is only in this country because of neoliberals destroying and stealing our homelands.
And no, I'm not worrying about them, I'm just crystal clear they won't save this country.
i actually was on wikipedia looking up an article on eastern airlines (i was watching ernest saves christmas and old things make me go down wikipedia rabbit holes) and was shocked it started in the 70s under him
Interesting claim, the Great Man Theory of Neoliberalism.
Every lefty I know certainly can't stop talking about how much they love Carter's 1976 political platform, which everyone remembers and cares about.
Before he died, people were always fawning over Carter. Don’t pretend that isn’t true. I always accrued downvotes for mentioning his crimes. Carter was a good person, on an individual level, but he was the first neoliberal president and the person you replied to was right to point it out.
So me saying don't lionize Carter because he was a terrible president is the great man theory, when I'm literally saying Trump is not a special kind of unique evil...
You either don't understand the words you're using, or you're purposefully being dishonest.