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[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

In debt doesn’t mean broke. People with a mortgage that they are easily paying off have debt. Millionaires and billionaires have millions and billions in debt. Debt itself isn’t bad. Debt can be good.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I would rather no debt, but I kinda need a house because it's illegal to buy a field and live there in a yurt

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Come out to the country. Just make sure your field is outside city limits, and you'll probably be fine living there, as long as your sewage doesn't drain into a protected waterway. A 3-phase septic wouldn't be too hard to put in, but it's a lot easier if you'll rent heavy machinery instead of shovels.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] bss03@infosec.pub 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Well, I would say you could immigrate to the U.S., but that's a bad idea for a number of reasons, IMO.

No countryside up in Scotland anymore?

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 13 hours ago

There is countryside but you are not allowed to live on land without planning permission, I presume Scotland has a fairly similar system too.

[–] P13@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The average American is living paycheck to paycheck with bad, high interest debt and killer monthly minimums. Many people roll their underwater car loan into a new underwater car loan. The housing market is taking a turn.

People are mostly broke.

Based on statistical average, or based on your imagination?

I get that we say this culturally, and it's common. But it's not that simple.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 5 points 1 day ago

The point is that being in debt isn’t the same as being broke and living paycheque to paycheque. Rich people have note debt than broke people because banks etc are far more willing to give rich people debt since they can actually pay it back.

[–] fatalicus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Just a small correction there: debt can never be good.

But debt can be necessary, but that is only because some financial institutions have made it so, because many of them make their money from peoples debt.

So they spread the myth that debt is good, despite the fact that the world would be a far better place without debt.

[–] fakeplastic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 18 hours ago

I had $90k of mortgage debt that I could have paid off but chose not to because they were charging me 2.5% interest and I was getting 5% interest letting the money sit in a bank account. Debt was most certainly a good thing in that scenario.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 3 points 19 hours ago

Absolutely false. Debt is a tool. It's a wealth multiplier.

You can use tools incorrectly, and that can harm you. But used correctly, they can let you do things quicker and easier than you could have without them.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, debt can be good. If you’re making more money from an asset than the interest on the loan used to buy that asset, it’s good debt.

[–] baronofclubs@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

For the person holding the debt.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 22 hours ago

Rich people always say never to use your own money to start a business.