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I personally cringe when I hear a friend js having a kid. All I can think of is how bad theyre going to have it. Hell id definitely have been better off being born 20 years earlier, but these new kids are REALLY screwed unless they have super rich parents.

"Nothing new under the sun" I suppose!

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[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 91 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Climate change is the only true existential reason to feel that way.

Everything else is just over focusing on a short term dip. On average things are getting better over the long term. The British Empire collapsed, and so will the American one, and the world will keep on turning and progressing.

Hell kids born these days may have legitimate cures for most forms of cancer by the time they're old. We won't.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

is there anything substantial being done about climate change right now though?

[–] ChilledPeppers@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] ChilledPeppers@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1jOqyjcO4g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUA1kFSJnYQ

I was going to say more, but basically, watch those videos (or read their references).

Good news sells bad, solar energy is being deployed really quickly and accelerating exponentially, solar has a higher return on investment than gas, coal or oil (about 8x as much in developed markets, according to the IEA), nowadays, green energy is the better one for the economy, and the billionaires just want money, so if it is the green energy that has higher returns, they will invest in that.

Green energy has had 2x as much investment as fossil fuels, and about 80% of that investment is private.


In september 2024 the UK shut down its last coal powerplant.

And I forgot the most important! There have been days where energy has a NEGATIVE COST in some places in the world because of renewables, doesn't that sound like a financial incentive to use renewables?


you could go on for days, there is a lot being done, we just don't know about most of it.

I'd argue that technology also, because it is consolidating wealth and power in the hands of fewer and fewer. This creates a positive feedback loop to further entrench their power. They have widened the divide and pulled up the ladder.

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, only climate change. Well that's alright then. /s

Climate change is going to influence everything in our society for the worse: politics, economics, living standards, everything, including the amount of resources available to use for research.

and the world will keep on turning and progressing.

The world will keep on turning, but there is absolutely no factual basis for claiming it will keep on progressing. If anything that is one thing we can learn from history.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Climate change is going to influence everything in our society for the worse: politics, economics, living standards, everything, including the amount of resources available to use for research.

Cite the numbers that make you pessimistic.

If you don't have numbers, then keep your crystal astrology bad vibes to yourself until you have something to back them.

I'm fucking sick of leftists acting like being moody and pessimistic is a valid political stan stance that does anything.

[–] Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

What kind of numbers are you going after?

I mean, probably you want numbers to prove that climate change is changing politics and economics, etc. for the worse, or maybe just numbers for proving that climate change is real.

But both of these seem like such trivial information that I'm probably just guessing wrong. But because of that, I'd be curious to know: what kind of numbers did you mean?

I can probably help digging up some for you, but not if you just meant "prove that climate change exists". But, numbers proving that economy will suffer from climate change should be easy to find. (And I think you could just search for them yourself...)

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

The goal posts are just going to be moved if you produce anything with numbers on it.